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Posted: Oct 15 2012, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (Starblaydia @ Oct 11 2012, 12:06 PM)
Also, is everyone a gray-shaded tweener? Are there no faces and heels any more except me? I'm out of touch, man!

Well, I would respond if I knew what that meant...I feel so out of touch now...
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Posted: Oct 16 2012, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE (New Montreal States @ Oct 13 2012, 11:37 AM)
OOC: Is there any way I can get this "14 Posts! Magic!" tag permanently? I'm really enjoying it. Or maybe it's just all this post-graveyard-shift beer.

If you're serious, sure.

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QUOTE (Starblaydia @ Oct 11 2012, 12:06 PM)
Also, is everyone a gray-shaded tweener? Are there no faces and heels any more except me? I'm out of touch, man!

Well, I would respond if I knew what that meant...I feel so out of touch now...

It's wrestling terminology. Faces (short for 'babyfaces') are the good guys, heels are the bad guys, while Tweeners are inbetween, usually with their own agenda that they pursue whether they get boos or cheers.

As Starblaydia I tend to play the heel quite naturally - big, powerful, arrogant, strutting around (often rightfully so) as the top dog being cynical, doing nasty things and generally throwing my weight around. The USSR, Nazi Germany, Iran, Venezuela etc. are heel nations. Some nations are great faces, they're democracy-loving, friendly and helpful - the USA, UK, etc. Tweeners may combine elements of both, or completely different character aspects, but they march to their own drum for their own reasons because you can't really put your finger on them, and fans of theirs are totally justitifed in liking them. China and Russia are good examples of this.

It feels to me like the CCS is a tweener alliance, because when you get down to it neither ASMV or Falc is a flat-out heel or face.

However, when everyone is a tweener, the lines are so blurred that often you have no idea who's on what side, or really why other than alliance of convenience or circumstance.

EDIT: I also blogged about this idea previously.

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Posted: Oct 16 2012, 08:54 AM
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I like to think that Falcania really goes to extremes on that, being by turns ridiculously villainous and supremely freedom-oriented. A big ol' revolving door of WHAT WILL THOSE CRAZY BIRDIES DO NEXT?!
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Posted: Oct 16 2012, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE (Falcania @ Oct 16 2012, 09:54 AM)
I like to think that Falcania really goes to extremes on that, being by turns ridiculously villainous and supremely freedom-oriented. A big ol' revolving door of WHAT WILL THOSE CRAZY BIRDIES DO NEXT?!

yeah, I'm going with Falc (ICly) as a Sting-like character (Steve Borden, that is, not the one who was in Dune) - that is, always to the extreme, and almost always liked even when he was in the heel stable (depending on how you feel about the NWO factions, of course).

As for where I stand, I've avoided jumping in here because I haven't had much time to think about it (RL puts me out of time for another month, roughly), but what I think about is conflicted. ICly, Legalese pairing up with Star feels a little like Poland and Germany being buddy-buddy - it's possible, but doesn't feel like it'll last. As said above, ideology seems to matter less in this fight at this point, especially along the major powers; hell, Starblaydia is presently the most democratic of the three (talk about a face turn there!), but all three seem to want the same thing: to be the region's most powerful nation.

What would I be going after, though? With the direction I need to start elaborating on, I'd say that history would push Legalese in the direction of security and sufficiency - a government and culture that focuses on survival first over rights, and understands the needs for a strong army to prevent Galactica Redux (i.e., the being occupied part - though considering my OOC absence at the time, I anticipate it's not a storyline that works in whatever may come in the regional future), and considering the cultural apathy toward government (my IC explanation for OOC disappearances), allows for a non-political (in the democratic sense) body to step in and run things, and do so without too much concern. In a wrestling sense, I'd be a tweener that does more house shows than TV, but is trying to become relevant by joining the more promising stable - heel or face.

Either way, as long as I don't become the equivalent of Virgil, I'm good.

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Posted: Oct 17 2012, 05:02 AM
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QUOTE (Starblaydia @ Oct 16 2012, 02:31 AM)
As Starblaydia I tend to play the heel quite naturally - big, powerful, arrogant, strutting around (often rightfully so) as the top dog being cynical, doing nasty things and generally throwing my weight around. The USSR, Nazi Germany, Iran, Venezuela etc. are heel nations. Some nations are great faces, they're democracy-loving, friendly and helpful - the USA, UK, etc. Tweeners may combine elements of both, or completely different character aspects, but they march to their own drum for their own reasons because you can't really put your finger on them, and fans of theirs are totally justitifed in liking them. China and Russia are good examples of this.

I like the model of your analogy but without starting a political debate I'm not sure you have all those nations in the right corners of the ring! To me it looks much more crowded over there with the heels, and perhaps only the Scandinavians tag-teaming for the faces.

Wight would probably consider itself the Gogmagog of Wrestling, or in the US/Russia/China/Israel/Nazi Germany model, then probably, um, Cornwall.
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Posted: Oct 17 2012, 09:44 AM
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Unless otherwise Persuaded, we maintain our isolation, allying with no one ... and everyone... at the same time.
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Posted: Oct 17 2012, 01:26 PM
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True, but you also stood prepared to bomb all of ASMV's stadiums and blame me.
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Posted: Oct 19 2012, 10:35 PM
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Is there an alliance or organization that caters to the Royals within AO, one where we can come to together every few months or so and go on hunts, eat cucumber sandwiches and pair up our children for marriage?

In all seriousness though, I wouldn't mind getting more involved within the AO community, however, as I don't have my army set up (as in units and strength documented) I'm not up for getting involved in large scale warfare, I may be able to provide a battalion for peace keeping purposes but that's about it at this stage.

Are there any economic organizations that promote trade and economic development amongst nations? I could get involved in that.
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Posted: Oct 21 2012, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE (Falcania @ Oct 17 2012, 01:26 PM)
True, but you also stood prepared to bomb all of ASMV's stadiums and blame me.

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Posted: Oct 22 2012, 06:02 AM
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OK, nice to see bits and bobs going along and popping up, I'm glad you've all replied with your interest and statements.

If you guys want to start meeting threads for individual prospective alliances, or maybe a standard region-wide gathering of... random important people (that we obviously do regularly to save all the introductions) in which conversation turns to alliances?

Perhaps an IC thread in Wapakhoneta for a Regional Coucil meeting would be best?
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Posted: Oct 23 2012, 06:28 PM
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AAL sounds like a great idea.

I'm all up for Ambivalence!
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Posted: Oct 24 2012, 03:02 AM
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Yup,i guess AO will be a warzone soon
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Posted: Oct 24 2012, 04:27 PM
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My nation is set up to be an idealistic, post-warfare nation that struggles to actually live up to the philosophies that supposedly guide its governance, and it seems natural to have it be a part of an alliance (such as the one Kinitaria proposed) that caters to socialist states. With no military, though, I'm not sure what use we could be in any international conflict.



Edit: As I read through more of the thread, I would be extremely interested in participating in international disputes by way of my extremist religious minority, who are in the process of interacting with the outside world for the first time in the WC RP thread. For reference, they are anti-every other country, anti-sport, and rabidly socialist. They'd probably welcome an alliance with other socialist leaning nations (as long as we didn't get too buddy-buddy), and would like to go about terrorizing more established nations and trying to incite revolutions. But first they're trying to take back control domestically.

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Posted: Oct 24 2012, 07:56 PM
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Avout alliances, my puppet Anksgaard, an almost completely communist nation, would like to join any alliance. Probably one that isn't capitalist.
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Posted: Oct 26 2012, 07:50 AM
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Well, if I can find time, Kryosis has always been -- and always will be -- a psychotic dictatorship (of the dystopian type, with its future-tech and eugenics legislation and complete lack of individuality afforded to citizens and whatnot).

...though I suspect the emperor might be too much of a comic book supervillain, even for the Strategic Alliance of Autocratic States, heh.

That, by extension, would draw Osarius into things, too. What with that shared border and the Council of Rabastor and... oh lord. This is why I stick to sports, Man that was so funny! :D. But this could be fun. I've never really done any RP outside sports on NS, thinking about it... and it seems a bit nuts to think we'd have no diplomatic relations with anyone else.
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