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AO U-21 Football Cup?

Posted: Sep 20 2006, 10:05 PM

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Bazalonia

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 12:53 AM

We'll have a go too.

Hypocria

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 01:04 AM

Okay, I think I'm going to take Vilita's idea and have a pol for participants on whether we use the NS U-21 rankings, overall AO rankings, or start a new AO U-21 ranking system altogether. That way, everybody gets their input in, albeit in poll form.

And the AO U-21 Football Cup's field now includes:

The Lowland Clans
Milchama
Myrtannia
Demot
Pacitalia
Hypocria

If no one objects, I'll sign up Yihsrael as well in the event that another team is needed to round out the field. For now, they're not, as signups have just begun.

Myrtannia

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 01:14 AM

QUOTE (Vilita @ Sep 20 2006, 06:36 PM)

QUOTE (Pacitalia @ Sep 20 2006, 10:19 PM)

if NS-U21 ones aren't used, but I'd prefer that since it took me godages to get there.

There no difference to you, you're the same rank in both NS U21 and AO

But, naturally, the AO Rankings are a far better representation of the nations currently in AO who would actually be participating

No? I'm T-1st in NS U21 and 4th in AO.

Pacitalia

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 02:03 AM

"Um didn't we just sign up a few posts ago" stated a random BFSA official

"Yep why we do have seem to have been forgotten about."

"Well, let's try signing up again. No need to tell James he'd just get cranky at us."

Bazalonia

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 03:51 AM

Since when does 'bring it on' not count as a sign-up for something like this?

Starblaydia Would Like To Sign Up For This Proposed AO Under-21 Cup Please, Myrtannia

That better?

Anyways, the ideal system for U21 ranks would be a combination of the AOCAF rankings and NS U21WC rankings, as they're the only two indicators of both AO-only and U21-only talent levels, surely?

Starblaydia

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 05:03 AM

QUOTE (Starblaydia @ Sep 21 2006, 04:51 AM)

Anyways, the ideal system for U21 ranks would be a combination of the AOCAF rankings and NS U21WC rankings,

Yes, but this would require a new set of rankings to be released

Vilita

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 06:32 AM

Or, OR, we do the first one in a Baptism of Fire style, where everyone has the same rank and good RPing is hugely rewarded.

Note the emphasis is on 'good', rather than short, repetitive, formulaic etc.

Starblaydia

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 07:47 AM

QUOTE (Starblaydia @ Sep 21 2006, 07:32 AM)

I'd rather do that than to base it off the current NS U-21 ranks. That just seems silly to do when we've got a bunch of established AO nations fielding U-21 sides in the AOCAF who don't have an NS U-21 rank.

There would still remain the question of whether the U-21 becomes part of the AO Rankings or whether it is a seperate rankings system altogether in the future.

Vilita

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 06:47 PM

Sorry for excluding Bazalonia and Starblaydia from signing up, it was very late at night when I type up the most recent signup list. Now, it's late afternoon, so I'm more awake than I was back then.

SO, the official, updated, and correct signup list should be:

The Lowland Clans
Milchama
Starblaydia
Myrtannia
Bazalonia
Pacitalia
Demot
Hypocria

Is that better?

Also, I also like Star's idea of doing the first AO U-21 Football Cup in the BoF style, where everyone has the same rank, and good, non-repetitive/short/formulaic RPs are rewarded handsomely. I believe this is the best solution to how to scorinate the first tournament.

And personally, I think AO U-21 rankings should be kept seperate from regular AO rankings, but there is a valid arguement for including them in the overall AO ranking as well. Vil's idea of a poll later down the road is the best solution here, I think.

Myrtannia

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 07:31 PM

V & T sign up as well, of course

Vilita

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 08:38 PM

Can you leave the signups open until after the vote is taken? If the AO rankings are separate from the AO U21 rankings I don't plan on participating, but if they're together I might, so I really want to know those results before signups close.

Az-cz

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 09:09 PM

Well, Myrtannia can always opt to open or allow one of us to open a poll now/soon

Vilita

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Posted: Sep 21 2006, 10:33 PM

didn't NS decide that U21 doesn't count for a reason...

Namely being a bigger geek and entering every competition isn't rewarded. Or else the KPBs would be based on the U21, Cherry Cup, and the WCoB and nobody wants that.