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Now, yes you can take this as yet more Lamoni-Economy-Bashing (which it kinda is, but is part of a general point about using NS stats in RPs), but let's consider that for a moment. First, some definitions.

Squardron: "An air force, army aviation or naval aviation squadron typically consists of three or four flights, with a total of 12 to 24 aircraft, depending on aircraft type and air force."

The F-22 Raptor (cost):"In April 2006, the Government Accountability Office estimated the cost to $361 million per aircraft"

Ok, so, being conservative, that's 4 squadrons of 12 = 48 aircraft. 48 aircraft at $360 million each is a total of $17.2 billion.

Lamonian annual defence budget (according to NSEconomy): Defence: $66,619,934,395.20 (13%)

$66 billion. So those four squadrons, to buy, represent a quarter of what the Lamonian Government spends on defence in a year. And that's quite a lot for less than 50 planes. Don't convert that into Lamoni's currency - Rushanas - unless you like working in trillions.

"But this is just a diatribe against Lamoni because you don't like how many planes/guns/etc he says has!" I hear you cry. But this is just based on stats that NS gives out and NSEconomy spits out some numbers - admittedly biased against high-tax economies. So? Well, Lamoni also has 7.5 billion people in it, there's an NS stat that is used very often to determine RP numbers, like percentages of population in the armed forces. 'I have more people than you, therefore more people in the army. I have an imploded economy, but that doesn't matter.' See what I mean? Each nation has both good and bad points that surely must translate into RP, based on whether you want to use the stats or not.

Let's turn the attention to Starblaydia, for once. Yes, enormous military spending = lots of guns, a place where the national budget is quite literally more than one hundred times larger than Lamoni's. But then again it is a dictatorship. Even in South America where ex-dictatorships are doing really badly as Democracies, they're not yelling for a dictator to take control back. It's very hard to love a dictatorship, and so Starblaydia's people are, comparatively, not as loyal to their nation as those in free states. Unless you point a TV camera at them, and they have to love the state or else they'll be hunted down. Indoctrination, small-scale brainwashing and large-scale propaganda can only get you so far.

Spending 20 trillion dollars a year on the military allows nations like Starblaydia (and democracies too, don't forget) to field enough battleships, tanks, planes and - yes - spacecraft to flatten a country.

So, military-wise, take a look at your nation. Check it on NSEconomy (or similar) here. Just what can you field, what can you afford? Look at your nation, itis stats and how you RP it objectively, if you can, and then see what you come up with.

Oh boy this has been longer than I thought, but hopefully worth it. Now you can reply, if you want. And please do, I'd like some other input on this.

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Thanks, Pac. I wouldn't quite put it that way, though, as clicking 'less taxes' and 'more guns' in appropriate issues is too simple for this as there's no 'right way' to run a nation.

Thanks, Pac. I wouldn't quite put it that way, though, as clicking 'less taxes' and 'more guns' in appropriate issues is too simple for this as there's no 'right way' to run a nation.

Quite, quite. Though I've noticed with some players they find it incredibly difficult to gain and maintain a high standard of economic strength and social liberties. The issues do present a complex mix. One could totally screw you over economically but raise your civil liberties level, another could give boosts to both if you know what to choose. You know what I mean? It's still a bit complicated based on past decisions and whatnot.

That said, I agree that the effort needs to be put into the RP. It's not too difficult to get a higher military budget and an at least reasonable economy, so once one gets that he/she can just focus on the RP at hand, where the talent and effort should be going.

First, NSEconomy stats have never been adjusted for inflation. For example, the price of gold in USD has gone up approximately 43% since 2004–04–24 (from 1 g Au being worth USD 12.712 to 18.173), according to xe.com. Since NSEconomy was created sometime around 2004–04–24, I use the exchange rate on that day when converting from NSEconomy USD to gold.

Second, even if we accept NSEconomy figures without adjusting for inflation, it’s absurd that the Capitalizt government has a budget of USD 36.4 trillion. Divide that number by 100 000, and it might still be a bit high.

And finally, since the government’s pathetic military (which is now even more pathetic after the war in Lukeonia) would be irrelevant in any significant conflict, what good would stats do in determining the strength of the Capitalizt Defense Alliance and Capitalizt Coalition for Coöperation in Protection?

This post has been edited by Commerce Heights on Jun 13 2006, 03:32 PM

Whether inflation is significant depends on what things you’re figuring out. If you’re comparing two figures that are adjusted for inflation, it doesn’t matter, if you’re comparing two figures that aren’t adjusted for inflation, it also doesn’t matter. But if you’re comparing the inflated price of an F-22 to the unadjusted Lamoni defense budget, it might matter.

I wasn’t talking about a generic nation of 6.5 billion people, I was talking specifically about my nation, in which there are no taxes, and the government budget is neither in the trillions nor the billions.

Stats give me government budgets, which are completely irrelevant in determining how much money a corporation has to spend on things.

*sends Starblaydia back to capitalizm 101*

This post has been edited by Lontorika on Jun 13 2006, 06:14 PM

Shut up... you and your silly mass-amounts of wealth