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| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 6 2008, 03:39 AM |
| Report by Colonel Natasha Krell (Lyras): Based purely upon the per annum budget presented, and ignoring considerations of population or alliances, I do hereby submit the following report for consideration. Total sizing: To ensure a per-soldier parity with more militarised states, and to guarantee forces the technological sophistication to match one's opponents in the technologically advanced and aggressive/confrontational political situation that is the norm globally, the preposition is advanced that a total combined army (no consideration herein being given to naval or fixed-wing air forces, at this stage) of 30 regular divisions be established. Reserve forces equalling this, at the very least, are strongly encouraged, however equipping them from extant surplus or gradual forward purchase is greatly preferrable to destroying the national equilibrium by rampant military overspending. Of the 30 divisions proposed for the regular army, the suggested break down is advanced as follows, with a tentative allocation of numbers for future ease of discussion: Mechanised Infantry: 19 (1st through 12th divisions, then 19th through to 25th) Armoured: 6 (13th to 18th) Artillery: 3 (26th, 27th and 28th) Air Defence: 2 (29th and 30th) The above force structure further subdivides, per division, on the following basis: Mechanised Infantry Division 6 Mechanised Infantry battalions 4 Armoured battalions 4 Artillery battalions (mixed) 4 Aviation battalions (attack helicopters) 4 Support battalions 1 Engineer battalions 1 Intelligence battalion 1 Signal battalion 1 Divisional support battalion Armoured Division 3 Mechanised Infantry battalions 7 Armoured battalions 4 Artillery battalions 4 Aviation battalions 4 Support battalions 1 Engineer battalions 1 Intelligence battalion 1 Signal battalion 1 Divisional support battalion Artillery Division: 3 Mechanised battalions 3 Armoured battalions 8 Artillery (MRS) battalions 4 Aviation battalions 4 Support battalions 1 Engineer battalions 1 Intelligence battalion 1 Signal battalion 1 Divisional support battalion Air Defence Divisions: 5 Mechanised Infantry battalions 6 Air Defence battalions 3 Artillery battalions 4 Aviation battalions 4 Support battalions 1 Engineer battalions 1 Intelligence battalion 1 Signal battalion 1 Divisional support battalion Each of the above stated battalions should be established with the table of equipment detailed below: Armoured Platoon 3 x LY4A1 Armoured Company 4 x Tank platoons Company command section (2 x LY4A1, 1 x Armd Rcvry) Armoured Support Company Air defence platoon (3 x LY220/219 Shepherd) Engineer platoon (Armd Rcvry, Mine warfare and EW) Medical platoon (3 x LY219 Ambulance, Mobile Level 2 treatment facility) Recon, Surveillance and Target Acquisition (RSTA) platoon (1 sect ATVs, GSR sect, UAV sect) Signals platoon (2 x LY219 Cmd variant, 1 x Armd Rcvry) Armoured Battalion BHQ (1 x LY219 Cmd Variant, 2 x LY4A1) 3 Armoured companies 1 Armoured support company 1 Mechanised infantry company Lyran Mechanised Section (Doctrinal) Number 1 Scout (ER AR44) Number 2 Scout (AR44) Section Commander (CPL) (AR44) Section 2IC (LCPL) (AR44) Gun (LY19 LMG) Number 2 gun (AR44) Number 1 Assault (AR44) Assault gunner (LY19 LMG) Number 3 Assault (AR44) Number 4 Assault (AR44) LY219 Ironheart (Light IFV variant) Mechanised Infantry Heavy Weapons Section Section Commander (CPL) (AR44) Section 2IC (LCPL) (AR44) First MG (LY60 14.7mm HMG) First MG assistant (AR44, Spare LY60 Ammo, tripod, C2 sight) Second MG (LY60 14.7mm HMG) Second MG assistant (AR44, Spare LY60 Ammo, tripod, C2 sight) AT Missileer (Javelin III, 4 missiles) AT Missileer (Javelin III, 4 missiles) AT Missileer (Javelin III, 4 missiles) AT Missileer (Javelin III, 4 missiles) LY219 Ironheart (APC variant) Lyran Mechanised Infantry Platoon 3 Sections Heavy Weapons Section Mechanised Infantry Company 3 Mechanised platoons CHQ (2 x LY219 Command variants) Mortar platoon (3 x LY516/219 Stormdrake, 1x LY219 IFV) DFS platoon (3 x LY219 MGS, 1 x LY219 IFV) Mechanised Infantry Support Company Engineer platoon (LY219 Armd Rcvry, Mine warfare and EW) Air defence platoon (3 x LY220/219 Shepherd) Anti-armour platoon (2 x LY219 ATGM variant, 1 x APC + 12 pers AT section) Medical platoon (3 x LY219 Ambulance, Mobile Level 2 treatment facility) Recon, Surveillance and Target Acquisition RSTA) platoon (1 sect ATVs, GSR sect, UAV sect) Signals platoon (2 x LY219 Cmd variant, 1 x Armd Rcvry) Mechanised Battalion BHQ (2 x LY219 Command Variant) 3 Mechanised infantry companies 1 Mechanised infantry support company 1 Armoured company Artillery “Gun” 1 artillery piece (either LY300 or LY516/219) 1 LY219 ammunition carrier/loader 6 personnel Artillery “Gun platoon” HQ “Gun” (not actually a weapon... LY219 IFV) 3 Guns Artillery “Gun Battery” 3 Gun platoons 1 Mechanised infantry platoon Artillery Support Battery Engineer platoon (LY219 Armd Rcvry, Mine warfare and EW) Air defence platoon (3 x LY220/219 Shepherd) Anti-armour platoon (2 x LY219 ATGM variant, 1 x LY219 APC + 12 pers AT section) Medical platoon (3 x LY219 Ambulance, Mobile Level 2 treatment facility) Recon, Surveillance and Target Acquisition (RSTA) platoon (1 sect ATVs, GSR sect, UAV sect) Signals platoon (2 x LY219 Cmd variant, 1 x Armd Rcvry) Artillery Battalion 3 Gun batteries (1 x LY516/219, 2 x LY300 OR 3 x LY300) 1 Artillery support battery BHQ (2xLY219 Cmd variant) In this context, I feel that artillery divisions deserve special mention. Frequently overlooked, the LY300 Manticore is perhaps the single most frightening piece of equipment on the battlefield anywhere in the world today. Divisions of Manticores can wipe out fleets, tear gaping holes in a nation's national infrastructure, to say nothing of the high levels of saturation fire available. Manticore divisions often function as the weapon of choice for a theatre commander, as they allow him to pick a target, hit it from a thousand kilometres away (Here Colonel Krell is obviously being expressive. She most certainly knows that the range of a BGM-109 is 2500km, given that she cited that figure herself in her previous report – Field Marshal Ward), and all without disrupting his or her own operational level manoeuver forces, and completely impervious to any viable form of counterbattery fire. Manticores in general, and when coupled with cruise missiles in particular, are a highly effective battlefield technology, and one which I cannot recommend more highly. With reference to air defence divisions, each individual battalion of air defence forces would be equipped with the LY471 Skyguard, as per generic layout specified within the LY471 information, however the additional units and equipment of divisional and brigade level would be held in reserve at each level, controlled by brigade-organic support battalions and division-organic support brigades, as appropriate. The slightly heavier load of combatant forces attached to air defence brigades is in acknowledgment of their uniquely important role within the battlespace, and thus their considerably greater value as targets to hostile forces. Taken in concert, each division is able to conduct offensive and defensive operations, by day or by night, regardless of season, weather or terrain, to seek out and close with the enemy and neutralise or destroy them. Combined arms emphasis enables any given opposing force element to be engaged by the most appropriate friendly force element, and a preponderence of hardened, mobile ground-launched anti-ship systems will, in and of itself, go a long way towards securing the Lamonian coastline. Skyguard needs no further discussion above that which I submitted in my prior report. I am gratified to learn of Lamonian intentions to purchase the system, and feel personally that they will derive much benefit from it, either domestically or abroad as part of expeditionary units (The good colonel reacted very enthusiastically, I am told, to the stated Lamonian intention to purchase the Skyguard. Colonel Krell has long been renowned as one who loathes civilian casualties, accordingly of all systems covered, Skyguard is perhaps that which she most strongly advocates – Field Marshal Ward ). The organic support elements to each division will simplify the logistic stream greatly, enabling Lamonian High Command, for example, to despatch just the 15th Armoured Division, should they so choose, or (at the higher end) 1st, 2nd, 8th and 11th Mechanised, 13th and 14th Armoured, 27th Artillery and 30th Air Defence, without having to seperately detail what would otherwise be a fairly length supply chain. This will also enable each division to internally support, as far as logistics is concerned, a factor which considerably increases long term force endurance in operational conditions. Should the Lamonians wish to talk to me directly, I would be happy to, and if they require or desire specific training on the weapons featured and the integration required to operate most effectively, then I will detach Captain Lachlan and his company from my unit here in the Dictatorial Republic of Sumer to assist in that regard. As always, should further questions be asked, I will endeavour to respond satisfactorily. Yours Colonel Natasha Krell Commanding Officer Lyran OPFOR Element Dictatorial Republic of Sumer TO: CinC Task Force Epsilon FROM: Lyran Governmental Trade Department Sir Based on the report attached by Colonel Krell, I have prepared a total costing for all equipment specified in the report. The total purchase is extensive, but, if extended over several years, should not put undue strain on a defence budget the size of the Free Republic's. Should the recommendations of Colonel Krell be implemented, I will forward a submission to Executive Command for financial considerations and a delay of payment. Regards Lieutenant-General Aleksandr Director Lyran Governmental Trade Department Bredubar Protectorate of Lyras TO: Free Republic of Lamoni FROM: CinC Task Force Epsilon RE: ORBAT According to previously outlined requests, I hereby submit the report on ORBAT and equipment recommendations, with my blessing. Field Marshal Edmund Ward Commander in Chief Task Force Epsilon LNS Longsword |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 6 2008, 03:49 AM |
| LY4A1 Wolfhound MBT: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13416164#post13416164 LY219 Ironheart: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533583&postcount=1 LY220 Shepherd: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534192&postcount=1 LY19 LMG: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13371209#post13371209 TRA-92 Eiko: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534616 LY300 Manticore: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535946&postcount=1 LY219/516 Stormdrake: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533583&highlight=Stormdrake&postcount=1 FGM-148 Javelin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin_anti-tank_missile --- This is a basic post to announce the upgrading of the Lamonian Army. I've bought all the equipment from Lyras (who looked over what I could afford, so Star can go yell at him if he doesn't like it); who is letting me pay for it over several NS years. And, I now have the most advanced army in AO. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 7 2008, 02:34 AM |
| LY471 Skygaurd: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539827 |
| Posted by: Starblaydia Mar 7 2008, 04:19 AM | ||
Do? You have the 'most advanced army' that anyone has actually announced thus far. As for actual competitive war RPs, when was the last time AO had one of those, if ever? |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 7 2008, 01:37 PM |
| As I already stated, i'm not ONLY active in AO, Star. There are lots of such RP's on Jolt. I figured that it would only be fair to post about my new military purchases here in my own region. |
| Posted by: Falcania Mar 7 2008, 01:49 PM |
| Congratulations, you have numbers. Do they do an RP ability storefront? Just for the record, I'm mightily pissed at your disloyalty to Paladin Tech. The AH-5, possibly our proudest export, accomplishes the same role as the TRA-92 yet at a fraction of the cost. |
| Posted by: Starblaydia Mar 7 2008, 02:04 PM | ||
Enjoy the II wankfest. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 8 2008, 04:19 AM |
| Falc: If you are referring to this thread, it's an OOC post. Well then, we'll just have to put PT's stuff through the NS Draftroom and see what's said about it, won't we? Also, the Eiko can do a lot more than the stated abilities of the AH-5. Star: Well, it is active in II, and I actually enjoy it. |
| Posted by: Falcania Mar 8 2008, 06:23 PM | ||
Depends entirely on the pilot and gunnery officer. I guarantee a trained Falcanian flight crew in an AH-5 will beat any other chopper. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 8 2008, 10:37 PM | ||||
Really? How about we test that theory with an exercise, Falc? |
| Posted by: Falcania Mar 10 2008, 05:06 PM |
| I'd be delighted. Live ammunition testing acceptable? |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 11 2008, 02:06 AM |
| Trying to blast each other out of the sky for real, Falc? Let's do it. Do you want to set up the thread, or should I? |
| Posted by: Falcania Mar 11 2008, 04:18 PM |
| If you're ready to be taken down, then sure. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 11 2008, 04:33 PM |
| We will see who takes who down, Falc. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 31 2008, 01:30 AM |
| I'm attempting to work out an "Ore for Fighters" deal with Imperial Isa. The fighter that he's offering for my Air Force: FFR-31 Sylphid http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p281/matt518672/Ffr31.jpg Accommodation: One Length: 18.80 meters Wingspan: 13.77 meters Height: 5.01 meters Weight: standard take-off weight 11, 876 kilograms; maximum takeoff weight 35, 660 kilograms Powerplant type: FNX-5010-H/J Phoenix Mk X turbofan x 2 Powerplant output: 9, 677 kilograms; afterburner 12, 644 kilograms Speed: Cruise Speed: Mach 1.4 (altitude 14, 400 meters) Maximum Speed: Mach 2.7 (altitude 14, 400 meters) Fuselage Load Limit: 9 G + Maximum Altitude: 18, 000 meters Armament: 20 mm Vulcan Gun x 1; internal hardpoint x 7; external hardpoint x 2 (usually for drop-tanks) |
| Posted by: Lamoni Mar 31 2008, 02:36 AM |
| More Sylphid stats: Ferry range: 2,000 mi (1,738 nmi, 3,219 km) Combat radius: 410 nmi (471 mi, 759 km) Vulcan gun rounds: 480 rounds RWR (Radar warning receiver): 250 nmi (463 km) or more (AN/ALR-94) Radar: 125-150 miles (200-240 km) against 1 m² targets (AN/APG-77 AESA radar) |
| Posted by: Lamoni Apr 26 2008, 05:32 AM |
| The Free Republic is pleased to announce the purchase of four Ngiri class Guided Missile Corvettes from Sumer. Details of the Ngiri class can be found here: http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=2728 |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 6 2008, 08:44 PM |
| Lamoni's newest purchase is a Brigade of the LY471 Skyguard AA/ABM system. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539827&postcount=1 |
| Posted by: Falcania Oct 7 2008, 03:44 PM |
| Hisssssssssssss. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 7 2008, 07:09 PM |
| Is that supposed to mean something, Falc? Other than the fact that you don't like me getting better weapons, of course. LAIX Arms (my) Storefront: http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showforum=61 Lamoni has also purchased 10,000 EC-3S compact shotguns with CMC barrels and laser sights. http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=2614 As well as 400 Ath-86 "Nebula" Strategic Bombers. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13626933&postcount=196 |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 11 2008, 01:40 AM |
| With another purchase, Lamoni now has 10 Babylon Communications Satellites, and 10 Vigilant Surveillance Satellites. Babylon: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12942123&postcount=145 Vigilant: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12942128&postcount=146 |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 11 2008, 04:10 PM |
| Lamoni has now purchased 10 Vanguard Multifunction Observation Satellites. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12942108&postcount=142 |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 12 2008, 11:32 PM |
| New purchase: 100,000 sets of Lyran Level III ('Arachne' + 'Dauntless' + inserts) body armor. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13691710&postcount=1 |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 14 2008, 10:06 PM |
| New purchase: 8 Thor Orbital Weapons Platform Satellites (GOD RODS!) http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12942027&postcount=140 2 Zeus Command & Control Satellites http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12942046&postcount=141 |
| Posted by: Falcania Oct 15 2008, 01:38 PM |
| 10 Satellites? I'm sorry but that's too far. I just went on NSeconomy and worked out that you simply cannot afford any of this stuff. You have a military budget a fifth of the United States, and they can't afford half the stuff you're touting. Even Starblaydia could only afford one Godrod satellite. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 15 2008, 03:38 PM |
| Funny, a consensus on II said that I COULD. And yes, I know that some AO nations consider II to be full of wank. |
| Posted by: Falcania Oct 15 2008, 04:03 PM |
| Yuhuh. I'm of the personal opinion that you keep your AO presence and your II presence very seperate - as far as I'm concerned you're a second-world country. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 16 2008, 12:02 AM |
| That's YOUR opinion Falc. And since you seem so intent on thinking that I paid the total cost of all these things in one sitting, then it should come as a surprise to you when I tell you that i've paid for these things with payments. Did you ever think of that, Falc? Furthermore, this is MY OOC thread detailing my military. I didn't ask you to venture an opinion. |
| Posted by: Falcania Oct 16 2008, 10:31 AM |
| Well if you ever plan to use any of this in a conflict here, you're mistaken. Moreover, payments don't mean jack -explicitive removed- if you still won't be able to afford them unless you physically spend nothing on defence for the next few years - that is to say, the maintenance and indeed the wages for the massive amount of logisticians required to operate this insanity. There is a reason the Ethiopian National Defence Force doesn't have military satellites on back-order - it will never, ever, ever have the money needed to pay it back. If the guys in II are cool with it, great, go play with them. Why do you need to post it here? |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 16 2008, 01:27 PM |
| You're mistaken Falc, I can pay for it. And I post it here because it gives me a place to post it. If you don't like it, then "Falc's exit, stage right," seems appropriate. |
| Posted by: Falcania Oct 16 2008, 04:41 PM |
| No you can't pay for it, and there's a perfectly good forum hosted by the NS bunch. |
| Posted by: Vilita Oct 16 2008, 06:28 PM | ||
Are the nations on II taking this monstrous list of previous purchases into account when determining whether you can afford these things or are you writing off each purchase and starting over when you are ready to buy something else? |
| Posted by: Bazalonia Oct 16 2008, 06:51 PM |
| It would be good if you could maintain a list of what you currently have... but yeah I agree on this forum it's abit hard. |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 17 2008, 03:52 PM | ||
This is how it generally works on II... First you purchase the product (either paying the full cost up front, or by working out some sort of repayment agreement... and it doesn't have to be in cash either, if you have something that the selling nation wants... but this is rare. Then, they deliver the product... using a guesstimate of the amount of time that it would take the selling nation to build/deliver the product. After that, the purchasing nation is responsible for all maintenance costs. --- To answer Vil's question; yes, they are. And yes, i've worked out payment plans with all of them, since I obviously couldn't afford to pay the full amount all at once (as i've repeatedly told Falc, who seems to fail to listen to me). |
| Posted by: Lamoni Oct 18 2008, 03:03 AM |
| I should also mention that all of the II storefronts that are worth anything also use NS economic calculators to see if the nation buying the weapons system can afford the purchase. The two most popular calculators for this role are NSEconomy and NSTracker. I use NSTracker because it works more often than NSEconomy. Sorry about that, CH. |