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Posted by: Tachbe Apr 19 2004, 01:53 PM

Okay, I think we have the results from the poll.
7 For, 0 Against, 1 Don't Mind
And that?s 3 For its existing form and 4 For post-establishment reform.
Here?s a reminder of the charter. It has been agreed but talks on reform will start immediately once it?s operational.

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RC-AO
Regional Council of Atlantian Oceania
* * * * * * * *
The purpose of the regional council is to make region wide decisions fairly and to organise regional activities. It operates in inter-regional diplomacy but does not co-ordinate defence, it is not connected to AORDO.

The system I have chosen is actually based partly upon the UN security council, and a whole host of others. The framework allows for future expansion without major changes.

Due to the rapid change in the region the council will have 3 permanent members, 2 members that rotate around the region and 3 non-permanent elected members.

Permanent Members (PMC) - These members will include the founder and two others who have active in the long term. If these members were to disappear they would have to be replaced quickly. These two will be chosen by the founder.

Semi-Permanent (RMC) - These 2 people are semi-permanent due to their posts. One is the region delegate (same rules apply on the delegates post here as they do in AORDO) and the other is the AORDO chief who represents AORDO in the council. That is the only official connection to AORDO though the two units do co-operate in defence.

Elected Members (EMC) - Every month a poll is conducted of the people willing to enter the council. Each post will have one of 3 duties, what the duties will be will be decided later, in elections people will decided what duty to run for and people vote on the selection available to that duty.

PMC = Permanent Member of Council
RMC = Rotated Member of Council
EMC = Elected Member of Council

Votes
PMC - 12 votes each (36 total)
RMC - 12 vote each (24 total)
EMC - 13 vote each (39 total)
Total - 99 votes

Legislation
If someone puts forward a plan, for example it is to make a new regional emblem, exile a member or password the region. It requires backing of another nation, so the two members puts forward the proposal, people can argue changes to it but the people putting it forward can call a vote on it at any time. To pass it requires a simple 50 votes for it, minimum. If it fails the people submitting it can withdraw it or revise it and resubmit it. Votes have to run for a minimum of 24 hours, after that it can be closed. It is a members responsibility to check the forum to vote on anything. A vote can be put to all nations of the region if the council votes that they should all have a say. If the people are unhappy with their elected members a petition can be drawn up with minimum of 10 nations agreeing to call an early election. No one can have two seats in the council, for example the delegate ca not be elected to an EMC and the founder can?t head AORDO (stated anyway in AORDO charter).

1 PMC is in place.
all RMC's in place.

Can Vilita please appoint the two PMC's

Can we have candidates for the EMC posts

Posted by: Vilita Apr 19 2004, 03:36 PM

Tachbe & Crystilakere are ineligible for the PMC Role or would that simply override the current status?

Posted by: Tachbe Apr 19 2004, 03:51 PM

clearly ineligible, no one can hold more than two posts and all posts should be filled to total the votes.

Posted by: Vilita Apr 19 2004, 03:54 PM

The Next User (Other than myself, Tachbe and Crystilakere) to respond to this thread will get the first PMC Post. The Second post will be decided following this.

Posted by: Holy Saints Apr 19 2004, 09:40 PM

does the PMC post require UN status? if not, then im the first to post.

Plus i plan on staying... this is the most forum wise active region i've visited yet.

Posted by: Vilita Apr 19 2004, 09:48 PM

Holy Saints appointed as first PMC. Any nations interested in the other PMC position, respond here or telegram/PM me and I will make the announcment later in the week. (might be worth logging on the main page)

Posted by: Nedlia Apr 21 2004, 08:42 AM

Nedlia would like to apply for the PMC.

Posted by: Crystilakere Apr 23 2004, 12:15 PM

99 Votes, odd

Posted by: Vilita Apr 23 2004, 01:02 PM

Tachbe appointed 2nd PMC. Since Tachbe already has a position on Council, RMC, Tachbe will be able to select a temporary replacement until his role has RMC has come to an end.

Posted by: Tachbe Apr 23 2004, 01:14 PM

Crystilakere, the votes are carefully work out to balance votes betwene people and the groups of people. These reaons behind it all, though I will go insane if I have to explain it. Basicly its to do with threasholds, and majorities and calculations and err stuff. I knew when I did it.

Vilita, You sure? by the looks I will be in RMC for quite a while. If you insit then I will give a bit more time for people to come forward.

Posted by: Vilita Apr 23 2004, 01:19 PM

Nedlia & Samonina have already Formally expressed interest in the role. I suggest that you might want to accept the role of PMC, and appoint a stand-in RMC, for the sake of order. There is no time frame for appointing a stand-in, as we should wait until we can get our new members integrated into the forum. I know Xile has had problems logging in

Posted by: Tachbe Apr 23 2004, 01:32 PM

humm. I am not sure, as it would have the affect of duplicating the infuence of AORDO's interests on the council. I will take it so long as no one has any objections.
In the vent no one does I would take the PMC and appoint Sammonia to represent AORDO's interests in RMC unless Nedlia suddenly gets hyper active in AORDO

Posted by: Vilita Apr 23 2004, 01:34 PM

That is exactly the route I would have been implying through our discussions. Of course, Positions on the council are always going to be subject to activity within the region. Should there be a stipulation within that Nations with increased inactivity may be voted off the council, by the other members of council, at any time. PMC votes would count above double RMC votes?

Posted by: Tachbe Apr 23 2004, 01:43 PM

So what we would want to add a clause stating that a council member can is he/she has been absent for 7 days and 4 members of the council approve the ejection.

Also I fogot to add in there that the electiosn for EMC's should take place every month.

These can be added once all members are selected and council operational.

Posted by: Vilita Apr 23 2004, 01:44 PM

Sounds perfect.

Posted by: Tachbe Apr 23 2004, 01:52 PM

almost too perfect.......

We should send notices round nations asking if they want to be an EMC.

Posted by: Vilita Apr 23 2004, 01:58 PM

Why dont we wait till the weekend to start with that, I'm sure Nedlia & Salmantic would be interested

Posted by: Salmantic Apr 24 2004, 12:01 AM

I want to be involved, but i also don't want to take on a responsibility i cant fulfill. how much work would be involved in taking the role?

Posted by: Tachbe Apr 24 2004, 03:57 AM

first, voting. Duties will be delegated once they exist.

Posted by: Xile Apr 24 2004, 08:28 AM

I would like to present myself as a candidate for the EMC. I was politically active within 000 and would like to continue that here. I realize I have not been here for a long duration, but I believe I am well suited for the job.

Posted by: Samonina Apr 24 2004, 08:38 AM

Yea. seems good Xile.

Posted by: Salmantic Apr 26 2004, 02:15 PM

I'll go out on a limb and say i'll go for an EMC position.

Posted by: Tachbe Apr 26 2004, 02:25 PM

I take it these people will be running for EMC?

Nedlia
Xile
Salmatic

Any more to make this more of a election?

And as there have been no objections, I formerly take the PMC and appoint Samonina as the AORDO representative.

Posted by: Samonina Apr 27 2004, 11:48 AM

righto
seems all good to me

Posted by: Nedlia Apr 30 2004, 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Tachbe @ Apr 26 2004, 07:25 PM)

I take it these people will be running for EMC?

Nedlia
Xile
Salmatic.

Yes, Nedlia is still interested in running for the EMC.

Posted by: Tachbe May 5 2004, 12:40 PM

Come on, is there anyone else or do we run a one party system. Should we just get these peopke EMCs so we can get on with work?
no one else around to run for a seat?

Posted by: Samonina May 5 2004, 02:36 PM

well perhaps all nations active in the forum who havent already been given seats should be put forward whether they like it or not. unless they have a huge objection. or does that sound too harsh??

Posted by: Tachbe May 5 2004, 03:49 PM

a) too many

not much point
c) forced democracy?

Perhaps we should run a poll to see if anyone has hiuge objectiosn to any particular people, but if they did they should be running insted. Oh lets just give 48 hours for people to come forward, if no one sdoes you lot get the job.

Posted by: Tachbe May 11 2004, 10:42 AM

Okay, I think that was 48 hours. The council is formed.

Vilita PMC
The Holy Saints PMC
Tachbe PMC
Crystilakere RMC
Samonina RMC
Nedlia EMC
Xile EMC
Salmatic EMC

Posted by: Samonina May 11 2004, 11:25 AM

tachbe-i learned my lesson last time, and i did look it up. honest! however, could you please post again what all the TLA's mean? please?

Posted by: Tachbe May 11 2004, 11:42 AM

But it's listed in the first ***** post of this ****** thread! AHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PMC = Permanent Member of Council
RMC = Rotated Member of Council
EMC = Elected Member of Council

Posted by: Samonina May 11 2004, 11:43 AM

ach schmidt. sorry. i didnt even think to look there. anyway. now i know. thank you.

Posted by: Tachbe May 11 2004, 11:57 AM

btw, I got bored one night so decided to map out what the council room might look like.
www.sic-alliance.net/Council.zip
heres a few images of what I did, not great I know but what do you think?

Posted by: Samonina May 11 2004, 12:11 PM

i cant open it. what should i open it with?

Posted by: Tachbe May 11 2004, 12:20 PM

there jpg pics in a zip. Just use winzip

Posted by: Nojika May 11 2004, 10:09 PM

I think the pics look great. What did you make 'em in?

Posted by: Tachbe May 12 2004, 10:15 AM

Thanks.
Mapped it on UberRadient, so I had limited texturing etc but it works.

Posted by: Salmantic May 12 2004, 10:27 AM

good work.