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| Posted by: Tachbe Apr 27 2004, 02:49 PM |
| The official Regional Map, stored in the protectorate of East Gate City, has been destroyed early this morning due to the invasion of the nation by Xilan forces. If no backup is found, the Map may have to be updated via Satellite imagery. See the Legislature for proposed regional map expansion rules |
| Posted by: Taaru Apr 27 2004, 02:56 PM |
| Could Taaru get the island number 13 in Aland? Sure looks great to inhabit.. |
| Posted by: Salmantic Apr 27 2004, 03:21 PM |
| Salmantic registers as colonial power |
| Posted by: Holy Saints Apr 27 2004, 03:47 PM |
| wait, so i can get 14 and 15 and wait till next month to expand to 12?(my economy is all consuming = high econ, i think its second highest level....) |
| Posted by: Nemya Apr 27 2004, 04:17 PM |
| Nemya has 522 million and the economy is "thriving". Does that qualify me for being a colonial power, perhaps, or for land lot 6 in the NE, or some funding for college? a free cookie? anything? |
| Posted by: Vilita Apr 27 2004, 04:19 PM |
| Lot 6 does not border you yet, so i believe it would be ineligible? |
| Posted by: Nemya Apr 27 2004, 04:38 PM | ||
Okay, how bout that cookie then? oh I guess I don't qualify economy wise, what do I have to get it to, to get a high economy? Like what levels are "high", I mean to say. |
| Posted by: Exham Apr 27 2004, 06:32 PM |
| Can the Republic of Exham take island 22? |
| Posted by: Tachbe Apr 28 2004, 10:33 AM | ||
| Holy Saints - You have a medium ecconomy. You expand you home land one block amonth for every 500 million people you have. You can expand it one block this month. Nemya - You have a medium ecconomy. In your position you do not border 6 so you can not claim it. Exham - It will show up on next update. Regards to questions on high low etc here are the listings of UN categories from the NationStates forums.
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| Posted by: Holy Saints Apr 28 2004, 06:50 PM |
| fine then... 12. |
| Posted by: Xile Apr 28 2004, 07:12 PM |
| If the colonial powers are already targeting lands and expressing their interests... My next expansion goal is #1 in the northeast region of the map. Xile is well within the confines of the expansion system with a simply frightful economy and a population that is covers the ground to the borders. |
| Posted by: Abattoir Apr 28 2004, 07:55 PM |
| I would like to claim number one on the middle eastern section of the map. I would also like to state myself as a colonial power, and I will next be targeting section seven adjacent to me. |
| Posted by: Salmantic Apr 28 2004, 10:08 PM |
| ooo Xile you beat me to the punch, how about splitting it up? BTW good to see someone else with a frightening economy |
| Posted by: Holy Saints Apr 28 2004, 10:28 PM |
| really? i have a medium economy? since when?: (RT)Economic -----------Political Freedoms----Civil Rights(-- ) (15)Frightening---------Corrupted------------Widely Abused (14)All-Consuming-----Widely Abused-------Frightening (13)Powerhouse-------Excessive -------------Excessive (12)Thriving-------------World Benchmark----World Benchmark (11)Very Strong--------Superb-----------------Superb (10)Strong--------------Excellent---------------Excellent (09)Good----------------Very good-------------Very Good (08)Fair------------------Good-------------------Good (07)Reasonable--------Average---------------Average (06)Developing---------Below Average------Below Average (05)Struggling----------Some------------------Some (04)Weak----------------Few--------------------Few (03)Fragile---------------Rare-------------------Rare (02)Basket Case-------Unheard Of-----------Unheard Of (01)Imploded-----------Outlawed-------------Outlawed |
| Posted by: Tachbe Apr 29 2004, 08:12 AM |
| It will be updated soon. Hopefuly after Salmatic and Xile orginise somthing, of course Xile has the first claim to the land. Holy Saints, your a FKBS in the listings. Father Knows Best State (Medium Social, Medium Economic, Low Political) |
| Posted by: Vilita Apr 29 2004, 08:58 AM |
| Those listing aren't accurate at all Tachbe, they describe the classifications for NEW nations. Classifications for nations on the run are not so easy to change. THS's Economy is currently at level 14 of 15, it doesnt get much higher than that. Mine is at level 10. Don't go by the titles those are just other players interpretations of new nations at the start of the game. |
| Posted by: Tachbe Apr 29 2004, 10:10 AM |
| They have worked 100% reliably for all my previous dealings. I shall make adjustments exacting the ecconomy status. |
| Posted by: Tachbe Apr 29 2004, 10:31 AM |
| rules and map updated |
| Posted by: Holy Saints Apr 29 2004, 04:43 PM | ||
although i respect your ability at this, just how big have the nations you have dealt with been? |
| Posted by: Xile Apr 29 2004, 07:25 PM |
| I would love to work something out Sal, yet I am also going to protect the interests of my nation. I would need to know your plans for further expansion before subjecting myself to a loss of land, and also ask if some sort of barter can be planned down the line. |
| Posted by: Salmantic Apr 29 2004, 09:10 PM |
| Xile, Salmantic's intentions for the future are that of a peaceful, slow expansion. Of course it can be worked out that Xile's territories never get questioned by Salmantic.the only reason I even desire your current land is becuase without it, I become surronded, minus the 1 territory that will become a hotbed of activity in my immediate region. I just desire a window of oppratunity for a future of my nation. Gratitude is always remembered btw |
| Posted by: Tachbe Apr 30 2004, 10:29 AM |
| Perhaps if you have a joint admin area offering Salmatic a corridor to the east and Xile a corridor to the cove? |
| Posted by: Tachbe Apr 30 2004, 10:38 AM |
| Holy Saints, I have dealed with pleanty, though it seams the admins changed it all over nigth just to piss me off |
| Posted by: Xile Apr 30 2004, 04:09 PM |
| To be blunt, the entire reason I claimed #1 was so as to keep other nations from expanding into my prospected future territory. I am content do split the territory, somewhat as Tachbe described, except I will give you full ownership of the land, not shared as he expressed. The possibly legal implications and probably troubles of dual ownership just seem to outweigh the benefits. I do plan to continue expanding southward around the coast to maintain a central location, but from where I stand now that seems as if it might be a problem once some island nations expand to the mainland. That however, is my trouble, and I would be happy to split my new territory with you. |
| Posted by: Vilita Apr 30 2004, 06:53 PM |
Xile, I would like to split lands 3 & 4 with you, If say you select 3, I'll select 4, then re-work it to something like this, where i got the majority of coast surrounding my island nations, leaving you some coast but 75% of the land.... Blue=Xile Orange=Vilita Let me know if this interests you. Abattoir I would be interested in doing the same thing in the opposite direction. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 1 2004, 06:49 AM |
| Can you not make a habbit of spliting up the blocks. I am fine with these but somone will eventualy go past the rules and I will be hard to make an argument. |
| Posted by: Xile May 1 2004, 08:54 AM |
| Sorry for the inconvenience Tachbe. Vilita, your plan looks good, and I will be sure to seek to implement it in my next colonial expansion. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 1 2004, 10:41 AM |
| so hows the Xile-Salmatic area going to be split? |
| Posted by: Xile May 1 2004, 02:29 PM |
| Well, Sal wants a portion of the west coast, while I will maintain the rest of the land. Now that I think about it Vil, I believe you would be better off splitting those islands you mentioned with Sal, as I will be building more along the east coast. |
| Posted by: Nova Roma May 2 2004, 06:02 PM |
| Novus Atlantica resides in block 9, southwest of Vilita. Our capital is Orichalc, which lies in the center of the island. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 3 2004, 08:05 AM |
| Done. And when people give the numbers of blocks please state the sub-region its in rather than give a directoon from another nation as that can be vauge some times. |
| Posted by: Salmantic May 3 2004, 02:12 PM |
| sorry i disapeared without telling anyone, i had to go to South Carolina for Drum Corps again. i think the way the territory worked out looks good. thanks for being respectful and diplomatic in my absence. |
| Posted by: Vilita May 3 2004, 02:18 PM |
| you should have stopped in and said hi, i'm in columbia all week |
| Posted by: Nojika May 3 2004, 10:15 PM |
| Nojika is situated in block 20 within Primear, South of Vilita. Nojika's capitol city of Rozier is located on the central Western shore. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 4 2004, 10:55 AM |
| Map updated. I also claimed one new block of land. I can't get used to not having large sweaping areas of land anymore so I had ot have just one small outpost somewhere. |
| Posted by: Vilita May 4 2004, 11:06 AM |
| I object to this claiming of land until there is a further explanation of how it is justified by the rules previously set forward? |
| Posted by: Samonina May 4 2004, 11:47 AM |
| i agree. coz then ppl could just start randomly claiming land to see if they could get away with it. not that im suggesting that would happen, but all we see in this forum is which land ppl want, not the grounds on which they want to claim it. that way we can be sure the system is being upheld |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 4 2004, 02:48 PM |
| What exactly do you mean. I think i will retract that colony anyway as I think it was a mistate, I should keep land simple. Infact, soon I iwll reclassify Orwell as home land and drop colonial status. Now, what do you mean with the rules. We could tighten them? |
| Posted by: Vilita May 4 2004, 02:50 PM |
| There is no reason people should be selecting Land all over the map. Plain and Simple It just looks stupid and messy, and VERY unrealistic |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 4 2004, 02:55 PM |
| That is why I selected one tiny bit still inside the cove. I was considering placeing restrictions keeping it in the sub-regions but wen your on a border. Plus European nations took areas round the world. Its hard to define rules on it. |
| Posted by: Vilita May 4 2004, 02:59 PM |
| I think a more logical expansion slot would be 1 or 2 just south of tachbe, not way over taking away room from Nojika... Expansion rules should be tighter. Needs to be much less of it. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 4 2004, 03:04 PM |
| Its hardly taking room, one of the least populated areas on the map that happens ot border Naj. I deliberatly chose a very small bit of land with no startigic importance. If I was to go for big expansion i would have gone for 6, 3, 9, 24 or 7 (various regions) The prob is every time I think of a new rule to limit expansion it flys in the face of realism. BE it size or amount. For god sakes the UK, a msall island of the coast of france, took 1/4 of the world, and thats not counting colonies it had before it reached its peak! be It Ieland of New Zealand, India or Canada. Then you have the Feench empire. Even the dutch had an empire! |
| Posted by: Vilita May 4 2004, 03:10 PM |
| well lets try and keep it simple, and create a land approximation committee. New members can select any block on the map. Expansions must be approved by Regional Council. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 4 2004, 03:15 PM |
| again, not realistic. besides the regional council would be alot of red tape just for one extra block of land. Perhaps is we just up the rules surrounding becoming a colonial power, we ocuyld actualy librilise the expansion rules themselfs a bit if we have tighter rules regarding entry. |
| Posted by: Abattoir May 4 2004, 05:21 PM |
| Well, I would have to insist on keeping colonial expansion based on economy plus population. With my current land situation with nearly 2 billion inhabitants...would be very cramped, making my frightening economic situation with such a large population, a near megapolis. The mere thought of my population density almost scares me, and with civil rights being so high, that for my nation to be able to exist in such an area is too unrealistic. There are few if any nations in our region that can top my population, and it would be ever so more difficult to gain my economic superpower at this moment. I feel that with 2 billion citizens I should be entitled to expand a little more and more frequently than someone with say 500 million. |
| Posted by: Holy Saints May 4 2004, 07:10 PM | ||
i can... lemme check the nation size comparison for a sec... |
| Posted by: Holy Saints May 4 2004, 07:12 PM |
| now then. I have 2.6 billion, and i am in a similar to slightly smaller land space. im gonna talk with Vilita over it... |
| Posted by: Crystilakere May 5 2004, 12:03 AM |
| I dont understand why I've been given so much land on the new map, I had already requested less land on the old map. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 5 2004, 10:29 AM |
| population does not mean bigger size just like that.You have vewry dence countries and very sparce countries. Russia for example, the size of Siberia and the amount of people living in it. besides, all countries are growing and it would be too hard ot keep track of sizes as new ones come in and old ones grow. I have already taked with Vilita on the matter regarding populations, you end with a death nail if you go with that I have been through all situations. I could go on but I see little point, unless you insit. Crystilakere, actualy you last asked for a tad more land, and as I didn't transfer those new isalnds across from the old map I compensated. I could knock a bit off if you insit or you could just wait till your population pads out. I have been taking with Vilita about the possibility of a new system regarding the map etc, it will be quite complex and we will annoucnce plans later. The map itself won't change but there will be some changes in terms of RP. |
| Posted by: Holy Saints May 5 2004, 08:25 PM |
| whatever, -explicitive removed- it, its not even worth fighting over something that in reality is much larger an issue to many nations. India is fighting with overcrowding because of 1 billion in a larger area than my nation, so i see i cannot get my point across to you. i have what, 500,000 square miles?. india has 2,973,190 square miles of land. really, i couldnt care less, its the principle of the thing. Screw it. remember, Russia only has 150,000 people, and many times by 'organized' drought they have lost millions. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 6 2004, 10:15 AM |
| In real life people don't have the luxury of expanding territory. In the rules I have actually included that bigger populations mean you can get hold of more territory, jus at the rate of everyone else. Look, person with medium pop comes along, gets chink of land, someone with bigger pop comes and demands larger land, someone with even bigger pop demands more than that, while these guys are expanding more and more bigger nations come in demanding proportional shares until whole sub regions are sucked up by a guy who?s been round a much long than everyone else. Sounds like I am blowing it out of proportion but it has already started to happen and its only a matter of time. Things like that is why I am trying to create the best rules I can with no exceptions. |
| Posted by: Samonina May 6 2004, 02:46 PM |
| i quite agree-but where has holy saints gone? |
| Posted by: Nova Roma May 6 2004, 07:09 PM | ||
I beg to differ, Russia has a population of 144,526,278. You are off, considerably. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 7 2004, 10:07 AM |
| You sure, I thought it was 146,934k close enough on either account anyway. Anyway, there isn't actualy a scale on the map if you noticed, just imagine that any nation larger than you is covered mostly by wasteland with the density of antartica. It would be a bit stupid to have any set sixe on it anyway as fitting several billion people into a small set of islands in the atlantic wouldn't go well would it? |
| Posted by: Nova Roma May 7 2004, 01:54 PM |
| 144,526,278 (July 2003 est.) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rs.html |
| Posted by: Vilita May 7 2004, 02:08 PM |
| Yes I have seen the same thing elsewhere, 150,000,000. 150k would be incredibly small, less than most of the cities! |
| Posted by: Holy Saints May 7 2004, 07:17 PM | ||||
sorry if i forgot those 3 zeros. now then, really, a nation with 2.6 billion is not the same size as a nation as a nation with 400 some or even 200 some million. Except for in the case of the USA, Russia, Brazil, Canada, etc, this is kept true. Also, my nation profile does say Massive. My nation could not sustain itself if it was so barren and that small. Eh, i think the USSR has the nice green fields that i have been accustomed to for over a year now. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 8 2004, 03:28 PM |
| Novus Atlantica, who said the CIA were reliable when it comes to intelligence Holy Saints, of course they green fields, they won't do to well, but the large part of siberia isn't that great, particualy the northern and eastern parts. Like I stated there is already some expansion linked to population but more would create an expansion boomb unless we closed off alll immigration into the region or limit it to new nations. I am working with Vilita on a few ideas, depending on how well they turn out there may be some ground level librilisation on expansion. |
| Posted by: Nova Roma May 8 2004, 06:38 PM | ||
Funny!! You have a good point though.  |
| Posted by: Taaru May 9 2004, 07:54 AM |
| New information: My nation's capital city is Kato City and is located in central part of the great Taaru Island |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 9 2004, 09:35 AM |
| done. map updated. Tachbe is now dropping its Colonial status. In an act of Union Orwell has now changed its status from Colonial territory to united homeland with the Tachbe Isle. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 12 2004, 11:45 AM |
| Okay, this is basically what?s happening. The rules as they are will become guidelines and the map will become entirely RP. When you expand or whatnot you have to back it up with some good RP. If you go mad and start taking loads of places and you?re the size of the San Marino then you can be given a yellow card by the council, it can be issued by minimum of two council members. If you receive a yellow card it is recommended that you stay within the guidelines but they are just guidelines. If the majority of the council agrees you are given a red card, you may be kicked off the map or something, exactly what will be decided by the council but hopefully that won?t have to be decided. |
| Posted by: Lieno May 13 2004, 07:02 PM |
| I would like to colonize Primear Region - Block 9 (SE) if that is acceptable. Lieno |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 14 2004, 11:35 AM |
| sure. Map will be updated shortly. |
| Posted by: Xile May 15 2004, 12:25 AM |
| As many of my people have been colonizing island 9 in the Northeast Sector, they have petitioned to be be considered a part of the Xilian central country. We have deemed this a necessary step to the unification of all Xilians, and seek only the approval of our neighbors to make this official. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 15 2004, 03:52 AM |
| done. map update shortly. |
| Posted by: Ostya May 15 2004, 12:30 PM |
| Ostya wants to colonize block 2, of the Northern Territories (yup... these small small islands...). |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 15 2004, 01:22 PM |
| Done. Map Updated. |
| Posted by: Aethyrea May 18 2004, 06:21 PM |
| Is Primear – block/island 23 available for Aethyrea? ~B |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 19 2004, 05:46 AM |
| I think so. Map will be updated shortly. |
| Posted by: Xile May 19 2004, 07:23 PM |
| Would like to make known that Babylonia is the capitol of Xile, and it's governmental center is located in the center of Xile's mainland territory. The city is sprawls over most of the mainland portion of the nation, while agriculture tends to be located more on it's recently acquired island. |
| Posted by: Soul Expression May 19 2004, 09:19 PM |
| Hi, I really like this map and the concept and would like to participate please. Unless a navy is really crucial, I think I would like to settle in territory #27. ty btw, my nation is the free land of Soul Expression. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 20 2004, 05:39 AM |
| done. Map will be updated soon. |
| Posted by: Abattoir May 20 2004, 11:21 PM |
| Our nation has set up a Naval Base on the island 24 off the coast of Abattoir. Being the island was uninhabited, and the only population is of Abattoirian origin, it has been proposed that the island should be annexed. The island is currently home to nearly one million naval officers and their crew, and comprises a decent amount of the population of Abattoir. Pending the approval of the region, our nation has temporarily named the area a protectorite, and has rights over the land at this point. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 21 2004, 04:41 AM |
| done. Map update shortly. |
| Posted by: Halor May 21 2004, 09:46 AM |
| i'd like to inhabit primear block 12 |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 21 2004, 10:56 AM |
| done. map updated. |
| Posted by: Soul Expression May 22 2004, 03:27 AM |
| 1) Can I declare myself a colonial power now? 2) Can I take over an adjacent territory without it necessarily becoming an extension of mine? I mean, it stays a seperate territory. ie,if it is attack, it is not my actual nation being attacked, but just that territory(block), like a colony. 3) How does my economyapply to developping in AO? How much money do I have or generate? How is that calculated exactly? 4) Are nations limited to historical weapons and vessels?or can we research and invest in theoretical designs and concepts? 5) Just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop? He He |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 22 2004, 05:11 AM |
| 1) of course 2) well even as a colony normally people protect it. Though even as main territory if someone attacks you can always surrender a bit of it. If you want it completely as a separate entity then you would create a puppet nation but I don't think it would be necessary. 3) guidelines on all this is in the first post of this topic. You have an excellent economy so you can operating in the guidelines quite well but you would be expected to come up with some RP for expanding, even if its a short about fighting off the primitive natives or something or about annexing a small colony or something. 4) My personal opinion is not to go too far into the future stuff as it gets silly but as long as its not a nation the size of Luxembourg developing the death star, I think its fine. 5) How longs a piece of string? |
| Posted by: Samonina May 22 2004, 05:54 AM |
| I thought you were scrapping the colonial stuff coz ppl were getting too land hungry? |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 22 2004, 06:01 AM |
| It is actualy more liberal. The rules on the front post are the guidelines to follow, as long as you have RP you can take over what you want so long as you dont go mad. Did I mention the council yellow card thing? |
| Posted by: Samonina May 22 2004, 06:08 AM |
| yea you did. well can i register as a colonial power then? just sounds like a pretty kool title to have. dont think i want any land just yet. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 22 2004, 06:11 AM |
| Okay, but you realise we now have 6 colonial powers who dont actualy have one colony between them. edit: makes more sence now? |
| Posted by: Samonina May 22 2004, 06:17 AM |
| ?? |
| Posted by: Nova Roma May 22 2004, 07:28 AM |
| http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php That site lets you enter your nation's name and you can find out how much money you actually can use. |
| Posted by: Vilita May 22 2004, 09:12 AM |
| National Budget: $1,262,300,625,000 |
| Posted by: Soul Expression May 22 2004, 06:26 PM |
| Soul Expression Gross Domestic Product Population: 156,000,000 Civil Rights: Superb Economy: Thriving GDP per Capita: $20,000 GDP: $3,120,000,000,000 National Budget: $1,250,346,240,000 |
| Posted by: Soul Expression May 22 2004, 06:28 PM |
| Hmm, now all that'smissing is a price list. How much does anything cost? |
| Posted by: Samonina May 23 2004, 03:35 AM |
| am i the only person that didnt work for? |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 23 2004, 04:45 AM |
| Samonina + Costs http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Samonina&defenseprovided=1&defense=17&militarybudget=1 |
| Posted by: Samonina May 23 2004, 05:07 AM |
| thanks |
| Posted by: Samonina May 23 2004, 05:11 AM |
| National Budget: $771,196,080,000 |
| Posted by: Nova Roma May 23 2004, 09:31 AM |
| National Budget: $1,571,130,000,000 |
| Posted by: Aethyrea May 23 2004, 09:33 AM | ||
nope, it didn't work for me either B~ |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 23 2004, 09:48 AM |
| http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Aethyrea&defenseprovided=1&defense=17&militarybudget=1 |
| Posted by: Aethyrea May 23 2004, 10:40 AM |
| thanks! B~ |
| Posted by: Abattoir May 23 2004, 02:37 PM |
| http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Abattoir&defenseprovided=1&defense=17&militarybudget=1 Population: 2,021,000,000 Civil Rights: Excellent Economy: Frightening GDP per Capita: $35,000 GDP: $70,735,000,000,000 National Budget: $40,106,745,000,000 I think I should get some more land  Enough for: 219,233 F-15Es, or... 340,907 Su-34s, or... 362,667 F-16s, or... 619,831 MiG 29s, or... 1,585,615 M1A2 Abrams, or... 2,272,715 T-90s, or... 11,635,062,542 M-16s, or... 22,727,155,500 AK47s And I should go to war  |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 23 2004, 02:39 PM |
| Map updated in accordance with peace treaty. NA also requested reshaping of his island so that has ben put in. Is soul expression could give thumbs up on that new territory. Oh by the way, thee peace threaty extensions are on the house. Marionet is also a full nation now. I suggest Nojika start forming the suggested defence pact between the other south cove states. Also on the ote of the sub council, would a nation there liek to take it upon them to orginise that or do you want a charter drawn out for it? Anybody else for extensions? |
| Posted by: Soul Expression May 23 2004, 07:08 PM |
| If by that you mean approving the map as it is now, yes. Soul Expression offers the nationless peoples of region 13, the possibility of becoming Soul Expression citizens. They will enjoy ALL the benefits our current population have. They will benefit from our efficient govt, our devotion to the people, our peace with other nations, our flag. Our nations will be one. Soul Expression has alloted a substantial amount of funds for the restructuring of region 13. It is our sincere hope that the citizens of region 13 will immediately feel they are benefitting from this venture and to immediately see themselves as citizens of this great nation. We will start by building a port, to open up trade with the south and further relations with the nations there. |
| Posted by: Soul Expression May 23 2004, 07:13 PM |
| Tachbe, do you have a list of such links, or are those the only 2? Like what those items cost on an individual basis. How much certain profects, launching satellites and building ports, etc... ty |
| Posted by: Abattoir May 23 2004, 08:09 PM |
| The Puppet State of Rendition http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Rendition&defenseprovided=1&defense=17&militarybudget=1 Population: 1,814,000,000 Civil Rights: Good Economy: Frightening GDP per Capita: $35,000 GDP: $63,490,000,000,000 National Budget: $31,966,961,040,000 Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 8.56% Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 17% Military Budget: $5,434,383,376,800 Enough for: 174,739 F-15Es, or... 271,719 Su-34s, or... 289,062 F-16s, or... 494,034 MiG 29s, or... 1,263,810 M1A2 Abrams, or... 1,811,461 T-90s, or... 9,273,691,769 M-16s, or... 18,114,611,256 AK47s |
| Posted by: Vilita May 23 2004, 08:44 PM | ||
All Expansion requests must be made in "Secure Discussion" If Expansion is un-oppossed, a Full Page RP will be required detailing the discovery, acquisition and future usage of the new lands; Before the land will be granted. As for this individual proposal, I doubt it will be accepted so soon after your own borders were expanded following the Nojika Affair. However surely permission will be granted to set up small research facilities in the area. |
| Posted by: Xile May 23 2004, 10:23 PM |
| http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=xile&defenseprovided=1&defense=17&militarybudget=1 Population: 1,996,000,000 Civil Rights: Superb Economy: Frightening GDP per Capita: $35,000 GDP: $69,860,000,000,000 National Budget: $41,828,814,720,000 Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 10.18% Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 17% Military Budget: $7,110,898,502,400 Enough for: 228,646 F-15Es, or... 355,544 Su-34s, or... 378,239 F-16s, or... 646,445 MiG 29s, or... 1,653,697 M1A2 Abrams, or... 2,370,299 T-90s, or... 12,134,639,082 M-16s, or... 23,702,995,008 AK47s How in the world I can be so easily opposed in a war... |
| Posted by: Hidden Ninjas May 24 2004, 04:33 AM |
| Hi all. We would like to have our nations people settle on section 1 of SE Peninsular. This post should make someone happy  |
| Posted by: Hidden Ninjas May 24 2004, 04:35 AM |
 1 post wonder!!!Not after this post.Man that was so funny! :D |
| Posted by: Vilita May 24 2004, 04:37 AM | ||
 It's a New Regional Holiday, mark it down, May 24th is Hidden Ninjas Day!!! All posts today must be followed with the mark of the Hidden Ninja. ..... |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 24 2004, 04:43 AM | ||
Those expansions were on the house as I had stated a sit was part of a treaty, not an offical expansion. (sorry for lack of other posting will get back to this soon. very busy) |
| Posted by: Crystilakere May 24 2004, 04:47 AM | ||
 Welcome to the Forum, great to see you! It will be nice to have a friend down here in the corner of the map, it was getting quite lonely over here! Hopefully we will see more of you around here in the future. Oh yea, Man that was so funny! :D |
| Posted by: Samonina May 24 2004, 07:25 AM |
| well am just gonna post here for the sake of putting the hidden ninja smiley at the end |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 24 2004, 11:10 AM | ||||||
I am afraid I don't know how the varaible links work. I just go that elsewhere. Maybe the home has more info?
When was that made law? and 'Full Page' isnt does that mean the full limit of one page topic? I think we should stick with the yellow card system we agreed on before unless you want a full council list of rules and regulatiosn for people to follow? And I am granting the request as, as I mentioned before, its on the house and also I think he deserves a sea connection if he is going to contribute to the cannal.
Sure can do. Will show in next update. (soon) |
| Posted by: Dartace May 24 2004, 03:30 PM |
| I'd like block 3, if that's ok. |
| Posted by: Vilita May 24 2004, 05:42 PM | ||
In which region? |
| Posted by: Abattoir May 24 2004, 09:25 PM |
| If it's possible to assign land to a puppet nation...I'd like to give Rendition land peice 7 above Abattoir. I haven't really read anything defining about this, so I'll just see what you all have to say. |
| Posted by: Lieno May 24 2004, 11:46 PM |
| I'm curious about some of the map changes: 1. Where did Irsland go? 2. Where did Frontire Island go? 3. When did Soul Expression take over Primear 13 and part of Primear 18? 4. What happened to Villiges? 5. When did Aethyra take over Primear 19? Not that I oppose any changes, just curious when some nations disappear and some increase in size quite dramatically. I did see Soul Expression request Primear 13 in the forums, but I thought there was a "magic" number of 500 million population. my 2c |
| Posted by: Vilita May 25 2004, 12:14 AM | ||
Write up an RP about claiming the Land How you acquired it, what the natives are like, how they adopted your government and what plans are for the future. Vilita would in turn like to make a proposal to Abattoir. Vilita would like to Acquire with Abattoir land masses 7, and 6. Provided Vilita acquires 25% of the total land mass to the eastern side along the coast, while Abattoir would acquire the inland 75% of the land mass. Citizens of Abattoir would not be charged access to Vilitan beaches were this resolution to pass. |
| Posted by: Dartace May 25 2004, 02:37 AM |
| In the region of Aland |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 25 2004, 05:39 AM |
| Dartace. done Abattoir. puppet, sure Vilita. technicly it's not an extension of land, its a puppet. And You know my views on puppets. Lieno. 1. Where did Irsland go? No one was using it so I cut the extras on the map so it was more efficent, Not I also eliminated the Key as most was obvious or wasn't used. I can bring them back if people have changed their minds. 2. Where did Frontire Island go? One of my puppets. I am cutting down my puppets and as that was a custom isle of sorts I wiped teh whole thing. 3. When did Soul Expression take over Primear 13 and part of Primear 18? 13, asked for it and gave some RP, enough and I stated reasons before. 18, that was part of the peace treaty, as I have stated the exensions to nations there were on the house an NA would probably expand further they should get land ASAP. 4. What happened to Villiges? Mine again, notice Perfectan too? East Gate is the only puppet I am keeping. 5. When did Aethyra take over Primear 19? That was part of the treaty to and was delt with by PM thats why there isn't anything on the forum The magic 500million I threw out he window as no body seamed to care about the rules. Just provide a good RP, a reason and dont take too much your in the clear. 500 helps but that was for homeland and you could have done the same thing but with colonial land and half the population anyway. Just so its clear, I am the first line on stupid expansions, I will let most past if it seams wrrented and you havn't had alot but the other council members have the right to stop you with yellow cards too. Exact punishment for getting too many yellow cards isn't decided so dont make is decide. The whole system is a tad more liberal now, dont make is impose rules. We have pleanty of space just dont clog up th egood bit sfrom newcomers |
| Posted by: Nova Roma May 25 2004, 02:24 PM |
| Would you mind replacing the N.A. on my two other lands with city names? I believe it will be obvious as to who the lands belong to and I can always clear descripancies. For the little island the city name there will be: Praetextus The mainland city will be: Iacomus |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 25 2004, 02:38 PM |
| you would do wouldn't you. Just as a finished finally getting your new flag on and was about to click upload you had to go and ruin everything and I have to go back and move everything round and and everything! Hump, typical. people these days. I see this map getting cramped eventualy you know. maps updated |
| Posted by: Nova Roma May 25 2004, 02:46 PM |
| Hahahaha. You know I love you Tachbe! |
| Posted by: Soul Expression May 25 2004, 04:40 PM |
| Vilita, adding assuming region 6 would make you quite the economic opportunist, Ahh, a good laugh.. Not to mention that it is an extremely strategic piece of real estate. |
| Posted by: Xile May 25 2004, 05:00 PM |
| Xile has ordered all citizens of it's outside island to retreat back unto the mainland and give up all holdings in the area. They are being compensated monetarily, but the island has been abandoned by Xile and becomes unclaimed territory once again. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 25 2004, 06:07 PM |
| map updated Xile. To all here, I want to mak eit clear that the rule sposted up for vote I am against because they do not ensure the safe running of this map, they will hamper legitimate expansion and will in the long run aid expansion of nations beyond their capacity. These rules wree not discussed with I or the council and that vite by passes the political system put in palce to deal wish such a vote ot get an accurate result, avoiding laggers. Those rules will not be imposed upon this map nor any other I do not feel will work after running this thing from day on e as my first act to this region. As author I will seek a set of rules taht will actualy help this map and pursue them, if this option stopped by implementation of those rules this map will cease. |
| Posted by: Vilita May 25 2004, 06:22 PM | ||||||||
This will be prevented as any Nation can oppose a members proposed expansion, so if, for example, tachbe is against, tachbe can oppose, and the council can decide whether or not the Nation will be allowed to expand or not.
You Disintegrated the council over a week ago, taking power away from the nations of the region and leaving it in your hands.
Thats just incomprehensible to me.. (Especially in light of the fact that you nullified the council)
So your saying that the nation that stands here and promotes democracy is preparing to ignore a vote of ALL members of the region and take the stance of a dictator in this situation in order to make sure things are run exactly how YOU want them to be? Please explain this. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 25 2004, 06:29 PM |
| This will be prevented as any Nation can oppose a members proposed expansion, so if, for example, tachbe is against, tachbe can oppose, and the council can decide whether or not the Nation will be allowed to expand or not. ---In that system the whole thing can be clogged up by one nation opposing another nation on grudge then. You Disintegrated the council over a week ago, taking power away from the nations of the region and leaving it in your hands. --Ehum. WE replaced the council with the protectorate council. You, I and Samonina, if you were paying attention at the meeting. The council exists as we three and if you want we will soon have a new council. Whats a few days for an elected result. Thats just incomprehensible to me.. --It means you are bypassing the point of having a council So your saying that the nation that stands here and promotes democracy is preparing to ignore a vote of ALL members of the region and take the stance of a dictator in this situation in order to make sure things are run exactly how YOU want them to be? Please explain this. --firstly not all promote demcoracy. Second not all are here, hence th eneed for a counci. Third, as I created it it is technicly a personal matter, apersonall peice of art say. I don't belive a vote can force me to change a picture if I fear it will harm it. And non eof us can talk of dictators as again the WE took over the council, for a very good reason, like I am doing now. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 25 2004, 06:30 PM |
| --oh and note that I actualy took the first step to bringing back the council after writing the whole dam democratic charter myself. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 25 2004, 06:31 PM |
| ---twice |
| Posted by: Aethyrea May 25 2004, 06:36 PM | ||
...AO has a charter? B~ |
| Posted by: Vilita May 25 2004, 06:37 PM | ||||
No, The Proposed Regional Council would have one. |
| Posted by: Aethyrea May 25 2004, 06:39 PM | ||||||
Ok -gotcha B~ |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 25 2004, 06:41 PM |
| try looking in the regional council area. I took the time to write it I hope Vilita actualy opened it up. It is also on the election topic aswell. |
| Posted by: Tachbe May 25 2004, 06:43 PM |
| Vilita, the past regional council had one and the new one, the new one isn't proposed we agreed to it, its just unelected. |
| Posted by: Vilita May 25 2004, 06:45 PM | ||
I know thats why i Said "proposed" , the old one dissolved and the new one is proposed, The proposed council has a charter, AO Does not, but the council acts under AO so the Charter for the Proposed Council would be the highest ranking charter in the region. |
| Posted by: Xile May 25 2004, 07:36 PM |
| I love how it's my fault the map is gone. |
| Posted by: Abattoir May 25 2004, 07:44 PM | ||
This would be fine, as soon as I can get the time to write some RP I will get to it. |