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Posted by: Xile Jun 1 2004, 09:11 AM
This topic is for all nations to express any opinions they have on the Xilian move (details of which are found in the Regional Map 2.0 thread) to avoid more clutter in the map thread.

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The nation of Xile plans over the next few years to transfer it's entire populace to the region of land just east of Soul Expression.  They plan to make the move to

  • Become more central in the region to take advantage of a larger market
  • Play a larger role in trading blocs becoming prevalent in the South Cove area
  • Nearly all of their natural resources have been depleted
  • Heavy pollution makes the area nearly uninhabitable
  • Sicknesses acquired from this pollution are widespread
After the move Xile plans to introduce a more rigorous program to protect the environment, as well as using more fuel efficient means of production.  This is done hopes of staving off a similar situation in the new environment.

A few rebel holdouts exist, but all remaining after the grace period of the move will be declared expatriates, their citizenships revoked, and further immigration into the area from these people will be processed the same as all others.

We expect that only perhaps a few thousand will remain, and these will consist of farmers and their workforce.  We will drop all claims to the land, and will not resist against any other nation's will to claim it.  We will not answer defense calls from these remainders, unless it is a humanitarian problem.

The move begins in the next six months, as New Babylonia is already being constructed to be much more energy efficient.  Xile will listen to all complaints from residents of the part of the region, but ultimately will have to make the move regardless of all opposition.

Xile requests the aid of Abattoir and THS in this venture, as it would need a small standing force to protect construction of the city and ward of acts of agression while Xilian Forces watch over the old land area to make sure the move goes smoothly.  Xile would also appreciate aid from the VOIA to keep its ears and eyes open in terrorist networks to find knowledge of terrorist threats that may be coalescing.

Any monetary investments in the creation of this new nation would be issued in the form of stock, which would raise in prices as corporations vied for control of land with a greatly increased value.

The city is located at the southeastern part of the landmass, where the rivers(?) converge.

To promote unity within the nation about the move, the government of Xile plans to

A) Adopt a new flag for all members of the population moving to the area
cool.gif Offer tax breaks for all early settlers and corporations to move to the area

(OOC:  If Vilita or someone would help me in making the new flag, I'd appreciate it, my PSP and photoshop are dead)

Posted by: Nova Roma Jun 1 2004, 09:51 AM
The Federation of Novus Atlantica has no objection to this relocation. Our only concern was that of the environment, but you have answered that question for us already as you plan to be more environmentally conscious.

If you require any assistance Novus Atlantica is here to help.

:Consul Deviath Fyr

Posted by: Abattoir Jun 1 2004, 10:15 AM
Abattoir will not oppose this relocation, and will assist in any way possible. The nation will be sending 5,000 ground troops to the relocation area to ensure tranquility in the region.

Any additional requests will be considered.

Posted by: Stralphi Jun 1 2004, 10:23 AM
The Allied States of Stralphi support this relocation.

Posted by: Vilita Jun 1 2004, 01:17 PM
The Tropics of Vilita are in favor of the move, as long as Xile assures the region that it will also aid overtime in the re-establishment of a sustainable environment in the northern lands so they can be reinhabited in the future. And Of course give details of a flag and it shall be yours.

Posted by: Xile Jun 1 2004, 03:39 PM
Xile will allocate funds each fiscal year to be used for the purpose of revitalizing the northern environment. Also, Xile wishes to garner the aid of the rest of the region in this venture, as we believe this could become a regional problem.

(OOC: I can send you a design if you would make it prettier :-D)

Posted by: Xile Jun 1 2004, 04:50 PM
(I can't edit my posts at this point for some reason...)

The new flag of the Sacrosanct Realm of Xile

user posted image

All peoples moving to the new region place their allegiance under this banner, as all who remain are considered traitors to the nation in eyes of the nationalists.

Posted by: Soul Expression Jun 1 2004, 05:05 PM
The land just east of Soul Expression has already been requested by the Nation of Bullet wounds which is preparing its redition of the fact. Please opt for an alternative emplacement.

Posted by: Vilita Jun 1 2004, 05:22 PM
QUOTE (Soul Expression @ Jun 1 2004, 06:05 PM)
The land just east of Soul Expression has already been requested by the Nation of Bullet wounds which is preparing its redition of the fact. Please opt for an alternative emplacement.

There is more than enough room for both to the east of SE. ensure Bullet Wounds is in "Stars" and not AO

Posted by: Xile Jun 1 2004, 11:13 PM
Xile still plans to go on with the move, as construction has already begun on the city. We request the southeastern most portion of the land allotted, as this is where New Babylonia is being constructed.

Posted by: Soul Expression Jun 2 2004, 12:20 AM
Soul Expression wishes to express its concern with the desires of Xile to move to such close proximity to our nation. In light of the environment Xile is leaving in its wake, it is disquieting for us to contemplate the same happening to our area.

Posted by: Bullet Wounds Jun 2 2004, 12:46 AM
We have been living on this land ever since GenGangrene1 arrived with the birth of Soul Expression, and have no intention of being uprooted. We have been building roads and infrastructures, all in anticipation of our independance.

We have assisted Soul Expression in the construction of their port at the tip of the westward river, where we share a border. We have also been investing in building along the coastline in anticipation of increased trade due to the triple pass crated by the new canal, something we think Xile may covet.

Due to the investments not to mention our love for the land we live on, we have no intentions of moving.

We wouldn't mind having Xile as our neighbors to the north however.

Posted by: Xile Jun 2 2004, 02:58 PM
(OOC: Damn puppets...)

Xile has already addressed the pollution problem, as expressed above. Our proximity to Soul Expression would be beneficial, if anything.

As for Bullet Wounds wanted the exact same path of land as I, I believe an arbitrator is needed. I still do not plan on giving this up.

Posted by: Vilita Jun 2 2004, 03:07 PM
I believe for safety matters it is only logical to grant Xile first choice on this land. Bullet Wounds would be entitled only to a very small bit of land to begin with so there shouldnt be much lost here.

Posted by: Xile Jun 2 2004, 04:03 PM
The Xilian army moves into place to protect the vested interests of the nation. Under orders of the Senate and their newly elected leader, President Adonis Lauir, they refuse to move as the rest of the Xilian populace arrives daily.
The navy has regrouped upon the river, and the air-force remains on ready in the old Xilian territories until new bases can be built for their operation.

Posted by: Bullet Wounds Jun 2 2004, 04:40 PM
Why should Xile get 1st choice? Because they asked after us? Or because its gonna tick me off?

Thats 2 things I request here that end up giving me more grief than pleasure. Is this how its gonna be all along? Why the f**k do u have to request the area I already requested? Why the f**k is this even being considered? Xile leaves ruins where its nation is and goes to settle in a brand new fresh lot of land? One thats already requested by someone else.

AND ITS BEING ACCEPTED!?!?!?!

Posted by: Bullet Wounds Jun 2 2004, 04:43 PM
Invaders have come to take our land, big mistake.

All the invaders equipment has been destroyed, anyone attempting to build on our land without our consent, will be shot.

Any Xile boats approaching the coast will be sunk. Any aircraft approaching our land will be shot down.

Posted by: Holy Saints Jun 2 2004, 05:00 PM
smart. mighty smart you warmongering fool!

An official decleration of war by an interim government will be set if you aggress further, my dear piece of dead meat.

Posted by: Soul Expression Jun 2 2004, 09:31 PM
QUOTE (Holy Saints @ Jun 2 2004, 05:00 PM)
smart. mighty smart you warmongering fool!

An official decleration of war by an interim government will be set if you aggress further, my dear piece of dead meat.

1st of all, this is what I meant about the possible unbalances possible with a nation of 2 billion v 200 million.

2nd of all the warmongering act was the invasion of bullet Wounds by Xile, who get to move around because they dont like where they are.

Posted by: Abattoir Jun 2 2004, 10:39 PM
Unbalanced? Yes. Who's fault? Yours. You should have just stayed with negotiations.

The nation of Abattoir will be sending in its naval fleet and a division of the nations infantry. Any more agression towards Xile will be considered an act of war, and will be treated accordingly.

Posted by: Xile Jun 2 2004, 11:08 PM
(OOC: Why in the hell should a puppet be given new FREE land over a soveriegn state anyways? If anything they should have to use part of provincial land already owned by the sovereign state...)

Xile respects Bullet Wounds' right to protest any activity within this region. They also respect their own right to destroy all inhabitants of the region if they need to.

Big mistake - attacking my equipment.

Do you plan on defeating the troops of my allies as well? Even if we do start off things on a level playing field, I believe I have the support at this point to decimate you. Xile has been here for a little bit longer than you, and my 'moving around' was supported by heavy RP. The only RP justification I saw for yours was that this tribe had always been there and supported the SE leader.

I am not going to say the names of your nations don't fit in with the flow...actually they don't, but besides that, one of the main reasonsyou face such opposition is because you don't leave room open for discussion on nearly anything, but simply issue your policy and expect everyone to follow suit. A more constructive tone would be nice, as opposed to the overbearing one you carry now. It creates resentment and hostility between fellow members of the region.

Of course, so does claiming the same territory as someone else did...which is why we are here to begin with I suppose. I am just saying that going about this militarily is not the way to handle things...but if we must I have a few proposals that I feel we should abide by.
  • No use of nuclear or atomic bombs or missles
  • No use of equipment that would harm the ecosystem beyond a rectifiable point
  • Civilians will be treated as non-combatants.
The way I am reading this however, is that all people in Bullet Wounds live to fight for GenGangrene1. Does this mean women and children are fair game?

Posted by: Vilita Jun 2 2004, 11:47 PM
QUOTE (Bullet Wounds @ Jun 2 2004, 05:40 PM)
Why should Xile get 1st choice? Because they asked after us? Or because its gonna tick me off?

Explained in one of the other 3 threads on the topic...


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Why the f**k do u have to request the area I already requested?


Because Tachbe accepted your last request without following the rules passed by legislation, after already expanding your nation unjustly as part of a peace agreement for a ware you were never involved in. The Unjust Peace Agreement was nullified with the departure of tachbe and all land allocations reset to the state they were in prior to it's implication, quite simple actually.

Posted by: Soul Expression Jun 3 2004, 12:14 AM
oh my Soul Expression and Bullet Wounds have suddenly vanished from the the map


Posted by: Xile Jun 3 2004, 07:08 AM
Xile has decided in order to quell this rising tide of hostility and promote tranquility within the region, to move their operation to the land east of THS and north of Lieno under a few conditions.

1. An apology from the SE government for the military action taken
2. Reimbursement for destroyed equipment is allotted

We do not see this as backing down in any way, just taking another venue in order to maintain good relations and keep an active member of this region content.

Also, my aim name is Silent Thrill 2k, im me sometime if you want to talk about regional affairs SE. Don't want to leave you out of the loop anymore B)

Posted by: Xile Jun 3 2004, 11:18 AM
Now the new guy has claimed that same land as a homeland I just mentioned. I don't want to run him away...but DAMN.

Posted by: Holy Saints Jun 3 2004, 12:56 PM
Take AM. its a puppet and could be reinstated in the place im trying to get on the southern island.

Posted by: Xile Jun 3 2004, 02:55 PM
Thanks for the offer THS, but I don't know if that region is large enough to sustain my population, that and I don't like being that far south. If Mil or SE would like to move there, I wouldn't resist.

Posted by: Abattoir Jun 3 2004, 08:47 PM
Xile = Idiot. East and West are two different directions :P

Anyway, I think the appointed thread for expansion should settle things, as it handles everything justly and fairly. Good day.

Posted by: Soul Expression Jun 3 2004, 09:53 PM
I have to have msnmessenger open for www.esorcery.org(non-NS related) members to reach me. Add lotan@videotron.ca to your contacts.

I am also on msn game zone. Add GenGangrene1 to your friends.

Having to many messengers going at the same time messes up my pc.

Posted by: Vilita Jun 8 2004, 04:16 PM
Map Updated.

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