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Posted by: Demot Jan 24 2007, 03:24 AM

Three professors from distunguished universities have met up in Lamoni due to a recent idea by the Lamoni people to do a regional survey, upon who had the best flag in the region. Sixty two flags from the region were selected based upon uniqueness, and were put up to be voted on by the professors, from a score up to a 100, 100 being the best. Each professor submits his score for the flag, the scores are averaged out, and the average is used to rank them. Galieo Fratz was there, representing Demot, and the University of Freestone...

Posted by: Bazalonia Jan 24 2007, 03:26 AM

And the results are...

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Rank Nation Score (out of 100)
1 http://www.nationstates.net/Vilita
2 http://www.nationstates.net/Sarzonia
3 http://www.nationstates.net/Bazalonia
4 http://www.nationstates.net/The_Lowland_Clans
5 http://www.nationstates.net/Casari
6 http://www.nationstates.net/Starblaydia
7 http://www.nationstates.net/Delesa
8 http://www.nationstates.net/Bettia
9 http://www.nationstates.net/Krytenia
10 http://www.nationstates.net/Femalmenia
11 http://www.nationstates.net/Southeastasian_Nations
12 http://www.nationstates.net/Myrtannia
13 http://www.nationstates.net/Geisenfried
14 http://www.nationstates.net/Pacitalia
15 http://www.nationstates.net/Czardian_Envoy
16 http://www.nationstates.net/Abattoir
17 http://www.nationstates.net/Lamoni
18 http://www.nationstates.net/Fmjpheonix
18 http://www.nationstates.net/Az-cz
20 http://www.nationstates.net/Amarenthe
21 http://www.nationstates.net/Kakin
21 http://www.nationstates.net/Demot
23 http://www.nationstates.net/Atlantian_Oceania
24 http://www.nationstates.net/Pedriana
24 http://www.nationstates.net/Hypocria
24 http://www.nationstates.net/Ereeland
27 http://www.nationstates.net/The_Islands_of_Qutar
28 http://www.nationstates.net/Xirnium_-_UN_Embassy
29 http://www.nationstates.net/Hockey_Canada
30 http://www.nationstates.net/Nojika
31 http://www.nationstates.net/Xile
32 http://www.nationstates.net/Manhattan_Prime
33 http://www.nationstates.net/Icuin_Hydeuh
34 http://www.nationstates.net/Morgrugyn
35 http://www.nationstates.net/Ollieland
36 http://www.nationstates.net/Oliverry
37 http://www.nationstates.net/Nedalia
38 http://www.nationstates.net/Turori
38 http://www.nationstates.net/Footballia
40 http://www.nationstates.net/The_sons_of_tzeentch
41 http://www.nationstates.net/Yihsrael
43 http://www.nationstates.net/land_of_libertys
43 http://www.nationstates.net/commerce_heights
43 http://www.nationstates.net/Quakmybush
45 http://www.nationstates.net/Nova_Brittanicus
45 http://www.nationstates.net/Chacor
47 http://www.nationstates.net/Bedistan
48 http://www.nationstates.net/Arkoa
49 http://www.nationstates.net/Atheistic_Right
50 http://www.nationstates.net/Aurendia
51 http://www.nationstates.net/Lisser_Ribena
52 http://www.nationstates.net/Crystilakere
53 http://www.nationstates.net/Falcania
54 http://www.nationstates.net/Drudia
55 http://www.nationstates.net/Mattikistan
56 http://www.nationstates.net/North_Vermont
57 http://www.nationstates.net/evisceratomatoes
58 http://www.nationstates.net/Maraque
59 http://www.nationstates.net/95X
60 http://www.nationstates.net/Ikeea
61 [url=http://www.nationstates.net/Atlantian Spaam]Atlantian Spaam 3 [/url]
62 http://www.nationstates.net/Scottfire

Posted by: Lamoni Jan 24 2007, 03:34 AM

Professor of Political Science Galieo Fratz - Demot (University of Freestone)

This "politically savvy" seventy year old is considered the best professor in Demot for Political Science. When it was felt that a Political viewpoint was a good idea for the Regional Flag Survey, this was the man that Demot sent.

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Professor of Literature Fernando Allez - Bazalonia (Drago University)

Professor Allez was provided from the Bazalonian Drago University in order to help understand the symbols involved on the various regional flags.

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Professor of Art Martyn Hernandez - Lamoni (Kazatlan University)

Professor Hernandez was chosen in order to round out the panel, and is noted for his sense of 'style.' He views each of the ranked flags as a seperate piece of art. Just that some of them are better than others.

Posted by: Az-cz Jan 24 2007, 08:11 AM

Letter from the Az-cz Council for the Arts

It's clear from these scores that the Bazalonian, Lamoni and Demot nations couldn't indentify a good flag if it bit them ass. First of all they clearly have no sense of color or style. They seem to favor three solid bars with some icon stuck in the middle, with no understanding of individualism or color blend. I think the reason they didn't submit explanations with their rankings is because they're just kind of guessing at what they're doing. Take the Scottfire flag. It is a beautiful flag. First off the boldness to submit what is essentially a monochrome flag. But they way they blend the light reds on the bottoms up to darker reds on the top is a beautiful piece of work. Or look at the Quakmybush flag. First off the four colors, white, grey, black, and teal mix wonderfully and come together to all join together to make the picture in the center. This is both a unique and beautiful flag design. Now compare that to the supposedly third best flag in Atlantian Oceania. It's three bars, one of which is a ghastly yellowish color and a clip art Bazalope in the middle. How is that significantly better than the Kakin flag, which has a haunting wolf glaring at you from out of their flag?

Then there are the errors they made in arranging the poll. Where in the world is Fmjpheonix? You'd think three esteemed scholars could tell that the name of one of the region's older powers is actually Fmjphoenix. Or mistaking The Czardaian envoy. Or Druida.

They clearly don't have a sense of art or knowledge about the region. They just like vertical bars in triplicate and clip art like pictures. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't need to be dressed up as more than what it is.

Posted by: Falcania Jan 24 2007, 12:04 PM

The Falcon's Royal Vexillological Society have but one thing to say:

What does the Bazalonian flag have that the Falcanian one doesn't?

Posted by: Hypocria Jan 24 2007, 01:22 PM

QUOTE (Falcania @ Jan 24 2007, 12:04 PM)

The Falcon's Royal Vexillological Society have but one thing to say:

What does the Bazalonian flag have that the Falcanian one doesn't?

A professor from a distunguished (sic) university to vote for it?

Posted by: Nojika Jan 24 2007, 01:50 PM

QUOTE (Lamoni @ Jan 24 2007, 12:34 AM)

The citizens of Nojika are interested in knowing what Professor Allez makes of the various symbols involved in the many flags of the region -- considering many of the national flags containing meaningful symbols ranked very low in the amateur poll compared to the more plain flags in the region.

Posted by: Pacitalia Jan 24 2007, 02:04 PM

Con attento,

The Pacitalian Guild of Universities and the Pacitalian Vexillogical Society together censure these results on the basis that there is no report suggesting the criteria, or explaining the research done to determine the rankings on the list. While we do not advocate that the Pacitalian flag should be ranked at the top, we indeed express concern that Professors Fratz, Allez and Hernandez did not truly take into account the national history, chromatic and artefactual symbology or, at the very least, a nation's pride in its own banner.

We request a full report detailing the reasons and criteria for the list placings being in their present status, and until then, once again, remind the esteemed professors and their research team that no credit, recognition or acceptance of these results shall take place until this occurs, and until we have a physical hard copy of the report in our hands.

Sincera in domina bene,

Professoro Signore Dr Andare Antonio Dirigiamatto, DL, PhD, MA, BA
Chairman and Chancellor
Pacitalian Guild of Universities

Signed with the full support of the presidents and chancellors of all twenty-eight PGU member institutions

Signora Alessandra Marchetta-Dona, DL, MA
Director
Pacitalian Vexillogical Society

Posted by: Falcania Jan 24 2007, 02:05 PM

QUOTE (Hypocria @ Jan 24 2007, 06:22 PM)

QUOTE (Falcania @ Jan 24 2007, 12:04 PM)

The Falcon's Royal Vexillological Society have but one thing to say:

What does the Bazalonian flag have that the Falcanian one doesn't?

A professor from a distunguished (sic) university to vote for it?

King Falcon has consulted the Vexillological society and is willing to permit the adding of a picture of a Falcanian Falcon onto the flag if it would improve its ranking.

Posted by: Delesa Jan 24 2007, 03:09 PM

ooc: look I'm top ten in something! Other then that what is this about?

Posted by: Vilita Jan 24 2007, 05:11 PM

A representative from the Tropics of Vilita has commended the outstanding work of the professors who have put this fine poll together.

Posted by: Bazalonia Jan 24 2007, 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Nojika @ Jan 25 2007, 04:50 AM)

QUOTE (Lamoni @ Jan 24 2007, 12:34 AM)

Fernando, scrounged through his office looking for his notes on the Nojikan flag...

"Ah here they are."

After taking some careful time studying his own notes he makes the following press release

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To Whom it may concern;

The Symbology for a flag is a thing that has many aspects to it, It represents the nation to other nations and a standard for those within the nation to stand under. And the Symbology that is contained on the flag must take those for it's primary focus and something that uniquely represents.

While I admit the available data I had on this particular subject was considerably less than I would have liked I used what information I had to make an educated guess. As such here is how I translated the symbology in particular for the nojikan flag... semi circles seemingly coming from a central mast, seemingly generating some sort of wave, radio waves particularily. Taking this mast & Radio waves to mean communication in general, which I might add is a noble goal, and scored appropriately. I am not wishing to enter into a who scored what and so will not comment on my score relative to the others, however in the end this is just in the end basically an opinion of 3 professors. Do with it as you will.

Posted by: Bedistan Jan 24 2007, 07:00 PM

Most citizens of Bedistan have dismissed this survey as absolute garbage, failing to understand how the flag of Bazalonia rates an 89.3 while Bedistan's flag gets a mere 30, despite the two being really quite similar.

Posted by: Milchama Jan 24 2007, 09:54 PM

Milchama dismisses as they are not in it despite having a very unique flag.

OOC:Damnit come on it's not the Jersey flag, look at my avatar thingy it shows my flag, it can't get on the NS main page despite my repeated attempts to do so, (This is why i still have Bettia's TG from 352 days ago with my flag links, no I wish that was not a joke).

Posted by: Bazalonia Jan 24 2007, 09:59 PM

QUOTE (Milchama @ Jan 25 2007, 12:54 PM)

OOC: eh, we where going off the flag that ison your nation's page which IS the Jersey flag...

Posted by: Nojika Jan 24 2007, 10:08 PM

Professor Allez:

Let me assure you that the people of Nojika do not truly care about how you and your colleges have rated our national flag, rather we, as many other nations have expressed publically, are concerned with how this poll was conducted and on what basis the flags of Atlantian Oceania were rated. I will however applaud you for your efforts - the article was certainly an interesting read and was a very unique poll idea.

However, I must also admit that your comments about the flag of Nojika and its meaning is disgraceful. What you have claimed in your so called "research" is absolutely false and had you actually conducted any research on Nojika and its history you would have found that the meaning in the flag of Nojika is much more deep than your shallow analyzation.

Firstly, the "central mast" you referred to is actually a representation of the eight ancestries and tribes, or branches if you will, of Nojika and their coming together in peace to end their 300 years of war. Secondly, the three crescents you claimed as "radio waves", as according to your "educated guess", which was clearly very uneducated, are actually a representation of both the three centuries of war our nation withstood as well as the three regions of Nojika and their individuality with the nation.

If you are to ever make ridiculous accusations about my country and fellow citizens again, I can assure you that you will be met with much more than simple outcry and disbelief.

Sincerely,

Lieutenant Derick Muscarel
Vice-Chancellor, Military Professor of International Security
Imperial City University

Posted by: Bazalonia Jan 24 2007, 10:20 PM

In response to the public outcry the Chancellor of Drago has just announced the Estbalishment of a Centre for International Learning, dedicated to the collection of knowledge and history for all nations in the region and out of the region and the entirtity of the NSWorld as part of his press conference announcing this statement.

"I can only be appauled that proper research was not carried out on the behalf of Professor Fernando Allez an Accademic review panel is reviewing his proffesorship, and while his statement has caused upset to the Nojikan people we can only apologise."

Posted by: Starblaydia Jan 28 2007, 06:00 PM

The sixth-best national flag in the region - according to a study coming out from Lamoni's finest minds (that's a good one) recently - that's what Starblaydia's ubiquitous black, purple and white has polled in a survey conducted based on the uniqueness of a national flag.

A tricolour with a national symbol in the middle wouldn't strike one as particularly unique, but Starblaydia's purple stripe and golden eagle is seemingly considered less unique than Bazalonia's orange stripe and black bazalope.

It seems there's no accounting for taste.

The flag of Starblaydia is a version of the coat of arms of King Oberyn, the man who united ancient Starblaydia in the first Century AD.

According to legend, King Oberyn wielded "an impressive, now mythical, sword that the Romanics knew as Fulguritus Acinace, the Lightning-struck Sabre". Known as Oberyn Starblayde, the emergence of heraldry in the Daii soon required that Oberyn defined his coat of arms. This was made, nearly two millennia later, into the official Flag of Starblaydia on August 23rd, 1946, Starblaydia's Independence Day.

The flag consists of a three horizontal stripes, coloured black (top), purple (middle) and white (bottom), with a stylised golden eagle displayed in the centre. White represented the silver colour of his armour and weapons; purple the national colour of Starblaydia symbolising his loyalty to the nationalist ideas; and black the forest of pine trees where Oberyn forged (or was given) his great sword and resulting power. The Eagle represented the Daii God of moral law and order, protector of suppliants and punisher of guilt, something which was equated with Oberyn himself. As a coat of arms, this was described thus: "Blazoned Argent, fess Purpure, chief Sable, eagle displayed Or."

Minister for Communications, Lord Ricardo Gomez, declared himself 'pleased' with Starblaydia's position in the survey, though allowed that 'uniqueness' isn't necessarily the correct way to judge a flag competition, should even such a thing exist.

In other news... the study couldn't even manage to spell the name of Starblaydia's northern neighbour Nova Britannicus correctly, so no wonder the flag is all the way down at equal-45th.

Posted by: Kakin Jan 29 2007, 10:51 AM

OOC: Yay! I wasn't near the bottom!

IC: Kakin has launched a series of celebrations as our flag is voted 21st drawing with the honorable nation of Demot! Rejoice as the food and banquets flow freely!

Kakin